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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Perthshire => Topic started by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 14:19 BST (UK)

Title: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 14:19 BST (UK)
I am searching for any info on my 2 x great grandmother, Margaret McClure born 1847 maybe Perthshire,Scotland, She married Andrew Richardson. They had a daughter,Helen McClure Richardson born 1881. Helen married James Mckinnon.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 12 October 18 14:39 BST (UK)
Where/when did Margaret marry?

Where was Helen born?

When/where did Helen marry?

Annie
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 12 October 18 14:44 BST (UK)
MCKINNON JAMES & RICHARDSON HELEN MCCLURE 1903
644/7 966 Blythswood

Have you found the family in earlier census'?

Annie
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Wendy2305 on Friday 12 October 18 15:00 BST (UK)
Hi the family are living in Govan Lanark in 1881
Details from the LDS census

Andrew age 37 Ferryman born Isle Of Whithorn, Wigtown
Margaret age 35 born Stranraer, Wigtown
Margaret age 10 born Glasgow
Alexander age 3 born Partick
Helen age 10 months born Patrick
Helen McClure Richardson birth was registered in 1880 in Partick
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 15:02 BST (UK)
Hi Annie,Margaret was married 1880 or earlier,Partick or Perthshire. Helen was born in Perthshire,not sure where she was married but it would have been around 1916-17,not found on cencus.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 15:04 BST (UK)
Thank you,Wendy2305
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Wendy2305 on Friday 12 October 18 15:11 BST (UK)
Helen and James were married 1903 Blythswood Lanark if you download the wedding cert it will gie you their parents names and the birth cert will also give you date of marriage for Andrew and Margaret as have found one but her name isn't McClure could the McClure have come from one of Helen's grandmothers
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 15:14 BST (UK)
It could have done,I didn't think of that.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: isobelw on Friday 12 October 18 15:20 BST (UK)
I think Margaret’s maiden name is actually Galt. There is a birth in 1871 for Margaret Richardson daughter of Andrew Richardson and Margaret Galt which would match with the 1881 census which includes a Margaret age 10 born Glasgow. Andrew Richardson and Margaret Galt married in 1870 in Hutchesontown, Glasgow.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 15:22 BST (UK)
thanks,sounds like that's her
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: isobelw on Friday 12 October 18 15:30 BST (UK)
In 1871 Andrew and Margaret are living at 217 South Wellington Street, Glasgow. They have a two year old son John living with them. He appears to have been born as John Galt ( mother Margaret Galt) in Govan in 1869. All the census point to Andrew Richardson being born in Whithorn, Wigtonshire around 1844 and Margaret being born in Stranraer, Wigtonshire around 1845/46. Andrew is described variously as a Seaman/Ferryman
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 15:34 BST (UK)
Do you think Andrew could have been Margaret's second husband?
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: isobelw on Friday 12 October 18 15:36 BST (UK)
Margaret Galt or Richardson died in Patrick in 1914 age 68. You can view both the 1870 marriage certificate and her death certificate on Scotlandspeople for a small fee and that should give the names of her parents. The marriage certificate would be the better one to view as that will also give the names of his parents and also confirm if she was a widow or not.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: isobelw on Friday 12 October 18 15:39 BST (UK)
The 1914 death is indexed under Richardson Galt and Greig so she may well have been married previously.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 15:41 BST (UK)
Thank you for your help  :)
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: isobelw on Friday 12 October 18 15:53 BST (UK)
I think I have found Margaret surname Greig living with her 40 year old mothe Jannet Greig in Stranraer in 1861. Jannet was born in Ireland.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 15:55 BST (UK)
That's brilliant,thanks.so her maiden name was Greig,then she must have married Galt?
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Wendy2305 on Friday 12 October 18 17:04 BST (UK)
There's a baptism of an Andrew Richardson 26 Oct 1848 son of Henry Richardson and Helen McClure in Whitmore
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: isobelw on Friday 12 October 18 17:07 BST (UK)
Perhaps, but John would have been shown as mothers maiden name Greig if that was the case and mother is actually shown as Margaret Galt ( no father) Also her marriage to Andrew would normally be indexed under Galt and Greig if she was a widow, and it is not. My feeling is that Margaret was born illegitimately as a Galt and that Janet subsequently took on the name Greig ( possibly by a subsequent marriage) and Margaret also then went under that surname. I have tried to find them in the 1851 census, but drawing a blank at the moment.
A Janet Greig or Galt died in Patrick in 1899, but she was 70 which doesn’t tally with the age on the 1861census.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Wendy2305 on Friday 12 October 18 17:11 BST (UK)
and 1851 census in the Isle Of Whithorne , Whithorne Road
Henry 33 occp Ag Lab
Helen 31
Andrew 7

All born Whithorne
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 17:34 BST (UK)
So McClure comes from Andrews mother
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: isobelw on Friday 12 October 18 17:48 BST (UK)
I’ve had a look at the 1870 marriage for you. It took place on 16th Feb 1870 at 63 Commercial Road, Glasgow ( given as home of both the bride and groom). Andrew was age 26, a bachelor, occ Seaman, Merchant Service. Father Henry Richardson, a Wood sawyer, Mother Ellen Richardson nee  McClure.
Margaret was age 24, a Domestic Servant. Father John Galt, a Warehouseman, mother Janet Galt nee Greig.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Wendy2305 on Friday 12 October 18 18:10 BST (UK)
have found a marriage of a John Galt to a Janet Greig in Whithorne although it is in 1865 on Family Search
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Wendy2305 on Friday 12 October 18 18:24 BST (UK)
There is a death of a John Galt in Partick  age50 in 1879
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: isobelw on Friday 12 October 18 19:05 BST (UK)
John and Janet Galt are living at 63 Commercial Road in 1871 ( same address as 1870 marriage of Andrew and Margaret). Also living there are Henry and Ellen Richardson ( parents of Richard). There are other Galt children who look to be children of John’s first marriage to Jane Thompson.
So looks like Margaret was born Greig but took on her stepfather’s name.
Title: Re: Margaret McCLURE
Post by: Vegan64 on Friday 12 October 18 19:22 BST (UK)
Wow you have found so much!