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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: enzfan on Saturday 13 October 18 12:53 BST (UK)
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I am looking for help with George CHAMBERS, father James please
FamilySearch has a baptism for a George, 6 Aug 1815, to a James and Elizabeth. Two other siblings have the same baptism date. On the 1841 (unreliable I know) and 1851 census George's year of birth is abt 1811. Can anyone confirm that this George is my George please.
Also, can anyone give me the marriage details of James to Elizabeth Unk please
Many thanks
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I don't know where you found the info that a James Chambers married an Elizabeth Unk but I have a feeling that Unk may stand for Unknown.
Emeltom
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There is a marriage on FreeReg for a James Chambers to an Elizabeth Lyon in Dudley 8 May 1811
Emeltom
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Hi
Yes Unk for unknown.
First child I can find born abt 1809 so not sure if that is the right marriage yet
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I'm assuming this is George in the 1851 at High St, Aston?
George Chambers 40 Redditch, Worcestershire
Jane Chambers 41 Aston, Warwickshire
Mary Chambers 10 Aston
HO107/2060 / 86 pg24
And that you have his father's name James from the marriage details? Does it say what James' occupation is - just to help with further searching? :)
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Yes, that's the one.
No I don't have James' occupation yet. The basic transcription is on FamilySearch but I need to get to the library to view the actual record. Witnesses could be useful as well.
I've found two brothers of George and tracked them but there are two sisters and I can't find what happened to them yet.
I'm pretty confident that George died sometime between 1852 and 1861 but his death does not seem to be registered - in Warwickshire anyway. >:(
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Just checking again ... is this George in the 1841 at Aston:
George Chambers 30 Warwickshire
Susan Chambers 30
Maria Chambers 8
Susan Chambers 5
Mary Chambers 0
Maria Horton 50
HO107/1148/12 pg16
So, George was first married to Susan HORTON 21 Nov 1832 at Birmingham, she dies (though I can't find the death reg) and George (widow) remarries to Jane SIMS 26 Aug 1848 at Aston.
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Ah, here it is - Susan CHAMBERS burial 21 Mar 1845 age 38 at Bordesley, wife of George CHAMBERS.
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I'm pretty confident that George died sometime between 1852 and 1861 but his death does not seem to be registered - in Warwickshire anyway. >:(
Likely death for George:
burial 16 May 1859, George CHAMBERS aged 49, residence - Deritend - though I can't find the death registration
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Here's a death notice:
"DIED ... on the 11th inst. suddenly at Yardley, aged 48 years. Mr George Chambers, painter and glazier, of Deritend; deeply regretted."
Birmingham Daily Post, Thursday, May 19, 1859 pg3
So now I'm not sure, as his occupation on the 1851 is plumber? :-\
Modified to add: this is the death reg: Solihull 6d/268 Jun qtr 1859
Modified again, I think this probably is your George. Some mentions in newspapers of James CHAMBERS, plumber and glazier of Redditch. I have to go out now, but will post some more info when I get back. ;)
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The 1811 Marriage that Emeltom noted has James as a Widower and Elizabeth a Spinster.
So he may have married 2 Elizabeths
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James/Elizabeth christened a JOHN HEMMINGS Chambers 6 Oct 1822 Redditch + RICHARD 25 Aug 1818.
1851 John is in Warwickshire, Plumber/Glazier, born c 1821 Reddick, Worcestershire (as transc)
1841 he is in Worcs, age 20 and a Painter.
Interestingly there is a Edward Hemmings and Wife next door.
You may already have Richards Marriage to Hannah Green 1841, Father James.
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A Tree has Edward Hemmings marrying Hannah Horton 21/6/1807 Alvechurch
(I cant confirm this)
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Hi all
This is truly amazing. Thanks so much for finding George's death - it's just about done my head in!
Yes that is George in 1841 married to Susan Horton
And thank you for the info on John Hemmings CHAMBERS as I hadn't discovered him at all so that opens up more possibilities.
Fantastic work everyone and much appreciated ;D
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I see from a previous thread that James CHAMBERS was definitely a plumber
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=783643.msg6383705#msg6383705
As I mentioned yesterday, there are a few mentions of James in newspapers of the day, including a James CHAMBERS (painter and glazier) bankrupt in 1831 (I'm assuming this is the father and not the son James who was also a plumber and glazier born c1811).
Also a mention of a "disorderly apprentice"
"Disorderly apprentice - Mr James Chambers, plumber and glazier, of Redditch, charged his apprentice with misconducting himself, and prayed the Bench to cancel his indentures. The Magistrates adjourned the case for a week."
Worcestershire Chronicle, Wednesday, August 18, 1841
There is a death notice for James (the son) in 1856, however no other family notices that might shed some light on James (the father)'s marriages that I can find.
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Thanks for that. I had spotted bits of those items and had decided that the James mentioned in 1831 was the son (and I didn't know what the item referred to only that it mentioned James Chambers late or formerly of Redditch). So you think the father?? More investigating!
I also wondered about George the 'plumber' in 1851. He was a painter in 1841. But James was a plumber and glazier, he had another brother, Richard who was a painter and a third brother, John who was a plumber and glazier in 1851 after having been a painter in 1841.
Can you see Redditch burials at all?
If so could you look for any records for James senior and his wife Elizabeth or an earlier wife Elizabeth please.
Many thanks
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I'm not an expert, but I notice in Pigot's that "Plumbers, Painters and Glaziers" are together as one trade.
Will have another look for burials, I recall seeing a couple of Elizabeth's that looked possible, but nothing conclusive.
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Well that's great - perhaps explains the differing occupations. Fantastic thanks