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Title: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: ourgang on Sunday 14 October 18 10:21 BST (UK)
This week the centenary commemoration of the sinking of the M.V Leinster were held in Dún Laoghaire. The Leinster was torpedoed on 10 October 1918 and over 500 perished. William Maher who was a stoker on the ship survived and was hailed as a local hero for his bravery in saving two people. Because of a very tenuous family connection to him I have tried for the last few days to trace his family history.

In the 1911 census he is living at 59 Dominick Street, Dún Laoghaire and is listed as 33 years,
I have found his marriage on 28 April 1907 to Elizabeth Kelly and on that record his parents are listed as William Maher and mother Julia. He died on 11 June 1953.

I am assuming he was born around 1878! I have searched the parish registers for all the towns around Kingstown and Kingstown but have not come up with any birth details. I also cannot find marriage for his parents William and Julia nor a death for these. I now need expert guidance!!
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 10:24 BST (UK)
Is he on 1901 Census?
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 10:29 BST (UK)
This week the centenary commemoration of the sinking of the M.V Leinster were held in Dún Laoghaire. The Leinster was torpedoed on 10 October 1918 and over 500 perished. William Maher who was a stoker on the ship survived and was hailed as a local hero for his bravery in saving two people. Because of a very tenuous family connection to him I have tried for the last few days to trace his family history.

In the 1911 census he is living at 59 Dominick Street, Dún Laoghaire and is listed as 33 years,
I have found his marriage on 28 April 1907 to Elizabeth Kelly and on that record his parents are listed as William Maher and mother Julia. He died on 11 June 1953.

I am assuming he was born around 1878! I have searched the parish registers for all the towns around Kingstown and Kingstown but have not come up with any birth details. I also cannot find marriage for his parents William and Julia nor a death for these. I now need expert guidance!!



Party 1 Name   WILLIAM MAHER
Party 2 Name   KATE KELLY
Date of Event   21 August 1907
Group Registration ID   2078067
SR District/Reg Area   Dublin North


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10099/5674142.pdf
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 10:31 BST (UK)
The above is the only one registered in Dublin!!

Not yours......grrrr 
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 10:34 BST (UK)
Party 1 Name   WILLIAM MAHER
Party 2 Name   ELIZABETH KELLY
Date of Event   28 April 1907
Group Registration ID   2031991
SR District/Reg Area   Rathdown


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10090/5670962.pdf
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: dathai on Sunday 14 October 18 10:43 BST (UK)
William Maher born Workhouse 9th Feb 1876 to William Maher,Kingstown and Julia Scully
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1876/03070/2125416.pdf
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 14 October 18 10:45 BST (UK)
The RMS Leinster
https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/1009/1001997-remembering-rms-leinster/

Are you sure that is the correct William in 1911, he was with Irish Lights at that stage
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000243080/

Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 10:46 BST (UK)
Wm on Census...


LINK

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Dominick_St_/92133/
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 14 October 18 10:47 BST (UK)
His Boer War records might survive, my grandfather's did.
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: dathai on Sunday 14 October 18 11:57 BST (UK)
His mother was alive in 1901 at same address
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/George_s_Street__Lower_/1318901/
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 12:03 BST (UK)
http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/deansgrange-st-nessans14/target12.html
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 12:05 BST (UK)
In Loving Memory of our Grandparents | WILLIAM and ELIZABETH (ELLEN) MAHER | died 11th June 1953 and 22nd April 1957 |
Loves greatest gift, Remembrance.


Lower Memorial: - WILLIAM MAHER, Desmond Ave., Dun Laoghaire | Ex Royal
Dublin Fusiliers and RMS Leinster | Awarded Albert Medal and Boer War
medals | for exceptional Bravery | Lest we forget.
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: ourgang on Sunday 14 October 18 12:18 BST (UK)
Thank you all so much for such quick replies. Sad to see that he was born in the workhouse but then so many were. Daithi you are amazing I thought I have looked at those irish genealogy records and finding his mother in 1901 wow!. Now I see she was from Co Westmeath. Great to have her maiden name that will set me off on a good track. William and Julia were probably married in Westmeath somewhere.

 I do think I have the correct William in the 1911 census. I know he had children Annie and Julia then also my uncle by marriage William Maher and I think I remember hearing of a Paddy and Tom, younger again.

Thank you Sinan thank you for the links. So much was discussed this last week about so many on the Leinster that I though I should set off to find a little about William.

Thank you Hallmark for those great details.
Because of the commemorations the Dún Laoghaire Rathdown County Council and Leinster Centenary Committee arranged for a new headstone on his grave and that was erected on 7 October with a very moving ceremony. I have a photo of this but am uncertain how to post.
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 12:21 BST (UK)
Why?

It was probably a hospital by then!!


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http://source.southdublinlibraries.ie/handle/10599/11063
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 12:24 BST (UK)
.....Billy had 2 other brothers Tom who was killed in Salerno in WW2 served in the Hampshire Regiment i visited his grave a few years ago, and Paddy who was found dead in a flat in London about 28 years ago,he also had a sister Anne who married a painter fron London called Bob,billy and him were great friends and did painting jobs together.  All the Mahers are dead now my mother married D   from Cork and had 8 children i being the youngest..


http://www.dunlaoghairecounty.ie/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1348&start=25



Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: ourgang on Sunday 14 October 18 12:26 BST (UK)
Wow Hallmark!! Wonderful find. The medals and watch have been donated by the family to the Maritime Museum in Dún Laoghaire. We went to see them during the commemoration week.
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 14 October 18 12:27 BST (UK)
I will dig anything up!   ;D
Title: Re: William Maher survivor M.V.Leinster
Post by: dathai on Sunday 14 October 18 13:12 BST (UK)
Seems strange that he appears to have no sibling's nor does there seem to be a marriage for his parents, as he was born in the South Dublin Workhouse i suggest you try the Workhouse records which may give some more info.
Perhaps he was illigitimite and why was'nt he born in the Rathdown Workhouse