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Title: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: lordcobb on Sunday 14 October 18 18:25 BST (UK)
Hi, wonder if anyone and make these a bit clearer.
My relative is Charles Cobb (he was sometimes also know as Samuel Charles) (His Dad was Charles Cobb too) seems to have had a couple run ins with the law.

The photos have more detail when viewed

Any help would be great
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: Wiggy on Sunday 14 October 18 21:15 BST (UK)
1.  Forgery - an order for payment of money

2.  looks like 'A fault' - can't read it   :-\

3.   -  Nothing against his name.

4.  Larceny - all three of them  -  Samuel, Samuel Charles and Eli!

Wiggy
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: craggagh on Sunday 14 October 18 21:19 BST (UK)
Hello -

Number 2 is Assault.

craggagh.
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: Wiggy on Sunday 14 October 18 21:20 BST (UK)
Ah yes - of course - the long 'double s'   ;)

Wiggy
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: Karen McDonald on Sunday 14 October 18 21:49 BST (UK)
At the bottom of the 2nd image there is also a Mark Cobb. Nicked for being drunk and riotous. Was he part of the same family? What a bunch...   :o ;D

Best regards,
Karen
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: lordcobb on Sunday 14 October 18 22:02 BST (UK)
Oh crumbs! Thanks so far

Yeah Mark Cobb is part of the same family  :P

They get bigger if you click the link, there is further remarks on the next section of the pages
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: horselydown86 on Monday 15 October 18 03:03 BST (UK)
Second Image:

Parish = Woodbury Hill Beri???is
Trade = Laborer
Hair = brown
Eyes = dark grey
Complexion = fair
Condition = single

Marks = Dark mole right side face; wen near left ear; thick lips; head leans to right [?]

Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: CarolA3 on Monday 15 October 18 05:35 BST (UK)
Second Image:

Parish = Woodbury Hill Beri???is

Think that would be Bere Regis.

Carol
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: CarolA3 on Monday 15 October 18 05:41 BST (UK)
Second Image:

Marks = Dark mole right side face; wen near left ear; thick lips; head leans to right [?]

'leans to right slightly'

Carol
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: Karen McDonald on Monday 15 October 18 07:14 BST (UK)
Second Image:

Marks = Dark mole right side face; wen near left ear; thick lips; head leans to right [?]

'leans to right slightly'

Sounds like a handsome chappy.  :o
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: bbart on Monday 15 October 18 07:29 BST (UK)
After sifting through old newspapers and censuses, I don't think the Charles Cobb in your first image, charged with forgery, is the same Charles in the other images.  This one was born around 1836, and can be tracked on the Wimborne Minster censuses, while the others can be tracked on the Bere Regis censuses, and their ages are half a generation out.

Source: Sherborne Mercury 24 July 1855

Dorset Summer Assizes

Trials of Prisoners

Charles Cobb, 19, pleaded guilty to forging certain
warrants and orders, for the payment of money, at
Wimborne Minster, on the 8th June.  The judge
observed that he did not consider the case to be one
of the same serious nature as those in which promis-
sory notes and bills of Exchange were circulated, or
attempted to be circulated, through the country; but
still it was a grave offence, for the prisoner had de-
frauded a shopkeeper, and also his master, by giving
false orders to obtain goods and money and he had
placed forged names to the warrants for that purpose.
The offence of forgery must always be treated se-
verely, more particularly where it related to negocia-
ble instruments which passed from hand to hand.
The sentence was six months hard labour.


I also came across an article in 1863 that fits in the right locale of the other Cobbs, where a pair of first cousins (Levi and John) robbed a Samuel Cobb (who had at least two sons, named Charles and Daniel).  Levi is from Wimborne Minster, so perhaps the forger Charles is a cousin to your Charles.

Sorry if this is all confusing, but there are a lot of Cobbs in Dorset, and a lot of them keep using the same name for their children for many generations.
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: lordcobb on Monday 15 October 18 07:49 BST (UK)
That’s very interesting thanks.

In terms of my family, Samuel Cobb was the father of Samuel Charles (sometimes just Charles) and he had a son called Charles.
Daniel and Charles were brothers and sons of Samuel Charles.
The son Charles died at 28
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: lordcobb on Monday 15 October 18 18:29 BST (UK)
Second Image:

Marks = Dark mole right side face; wen near left ear; thick lips; head leans to right [?]

'leans to right slightly'

Sounds like a handsome chappy.  :o

 ;) :D us Cobb's are good looking country folk you know!  :-*
Title: Re: Dorset Prison Record 1875
Post by: Karen McDonald on Tuesday 16 October 18 06:55 BST (UK)
 ;D ;D ;D