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Title: occupation on american census
Post by: smileygirl on Sunday 14 October 18 20:53 BST (UK)
Please can someone tell me the occupation beginning with pro.......  The husband and wife both have the same job.???
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: Karen McDonald on Sunday 14 October 18 21:21 BST (UK)
Professional  ??? ??? ???

That would be a bit vague, though.

I did wonder about Professor, but I can't make it fit...

Best regards,
Karen
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: DavidJP on Sunday 14 October 18 21:30 BST (UK)
Hi,

Looks to me like:

Profess none?
Profess Wid (Widow)?

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: Karen McDonald on Sunday 14 October 18 21:37 BST (UK)
It looks as though the same person made all the entries, but there are big differences in the letters. If I am seeing it correctly, two of the entries are "house work". One has a hyphen, the other doesn't and if they weren't in the same list together, I would never have thought they said the same thing. The first one looks more like "Itase North"!

Looking again at "Dress maker", it could well be "ss" in the middle of the unknown word(s).

Crumbs. And I thought my handwriting was sloppy..!

K.
 
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: DavidJP on Sunday 14 October 18 21:47 BST (UK)
Hi,

Looks to me like:

Profess none?
Profess Wid (Widow)?

Having looked again, I believe that they both say 'Profess Wid' the second s of the first entry runs into the w of wid.


Looking again at "Dress maker", it could well be "ss" in the middle of the unknown word(s).

Crumbs. And I thought my handwriting was sloppy..!

It is indeed a double ss in the middle of the unknown words. Your also right in that the handwriting isn't the best, but then I can't talk, mine isn't the best either! :-X ;D

Hope this helps.

Kind regards

David
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: craggagh on Sunday 14 October 18 21:55 BST (UK)
Hello -

I would read those as very badly written Professional.

craggagh.
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: smileygirl on Sunday 14 October 18 22:11 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone
I think I will have to go with professional but still don't know what that means they did? 
I included some of the other words to compare as the writing is so terrible  as you all said.
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: UK4753 on Sunday 14 October 18 23:01 BST (UK)
I don't know which year this census was taken or where it was taken but you might try another year for this family and see if the occupation is more clear.
 :)
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 14 October 18 23:08 BST (UK)
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Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: smileygirl on Monday 15 October 18 00:20 BST (UK)
This is the problem I can't find them on any other census as adults . He is on the new York police census age 20  about 13 years earlier but only an index so no occupation  his dad was a bookeeper.
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 15 October 18 07:10 BST (UK)
Which census is it, and what is his name?
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: smileygirl on Monday 15 October 18 15:08 BST (UK)
His name is James Melvin dob 14 Jan 1870  Manhattan new York .
1870 census living in the post office ward 20 district 7 nee York.
1880 living west 40th st new York City
1890 living  election districh 20 assembly district 17 new York City police census index only
1900  not living with his family in East 52nd st new York
1905 living with wife Hannah melvin (maddox) and her mum Sarah  maddox on w 39th st manhattan ny city. This is the one they are both professionals?
I can't find them again after that!
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 15 October 18 22:55 BST (UK)
His name is James Melvin dob 14 Jan 1870  Manhattan new York .
1870 census living in the post office ward 20 district 7 nee York.
1880 living west 40th st new York City
1890 living  election districh 20 assembly district 17 new York City police census index only
1900  not living with his family in East 52nd st new York
1905 living with wife Hannah melvin (maddox) and her mum Sarah  maddox on w 39th st manhattan ny city. This is the one they are both professionals?
I can't find them again after that!

1905 census? Did you mean 1910? I tried searching for James, with the details above, in the 1910 census and drew a blank I'm afraid. I just wanted to have a look around in case others had the same occupation and the writing was clearer.  :-\
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 15 October 18 23:03 BST (UK)
1905 was a state, not federal, census-
https://www.familysearch.org/collection/1463113
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 15 October 18 23:04 BST (UK)
1905 was a state, not federal, census-
https://www.familysearch.org/collection/1463113

Thank you for the clarification aghadowey.  :)

Added: I see there are lots of others on the same and adjacent page with the same or very similar Profes? occupations.  :-\
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 15 October 18 23:14 BST (UK)
Going back to "page 1" the writing is clearer and there are lots of "professionals" - it must have had a specific meaning at that time (or maybe a vague meaning)?

Not that it helps, but column 8 has a "W" for all three, meaning they were paid a wage or salary.
Title: Re: occupation on american census
Post by: smileygirl on Tuesday 16 October 18 01:04 BST (UK)
Thanks for checking it out we still don't know what job it is but at least we know what it says  on the census. Maybe it meant skilled worker who knows?