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Research in Other Countries => Other Countries => Topic started by: Krazykat87 on Monday 15 October 18 19:11 BST (UK)
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Hi there
I am trying to find the birth of my great great grandma Margaret knott- father Edward knott
Recently come to light she probably wasn’t born in Ireland and I came across two hits on ancestry but I can’t look at them as I don’t have worldwide subscription. She was born roughly around 1878 as her marriage lists her as 25 but census shows she was same age as husband- 23.
The record I came across is in;
Select births and baptism india. Has her with a middle name of Elizabeth.
Thank you
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Birth/Baptism for a Margaret Ellen (not Elizabeth) -
Margaret Ellen Knott
Birth Date - 24 Sep 1873
Birth Place - Fyzabad, Bengal, India
Baptism Date - 3 Oct 1873
Father - Edward Knott
Mother - Margaret
The above is on Family Search (you will need to register)
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1584960
JJ
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Sorry I did mean ellen.... I was thinking of my mum for some reason.
Would there be any other documents available for Edward being over there?
Haven’t even come across a death record or marriage for him so wondered if those things happened when away from ireland
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What was Edward's birth year and place please?
As yet cannot see any reference to Edward in India other than the baptism posted.
JJ
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Another baptism -
Mary Knot
Baptism - 25 Aug 1875, Fyzabad, Bengal, India
Birth Date - 11 Aug 1875
Father - Edward Knot
Mother - Margaret
JJ
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See also- http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=802006
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What was Edward's birth year and place please?
As yet cannot see any reference to Edward in India other than the baptism posted.
JJ
Not found his birth yet I’m afraid. He was meant to be a soldier so I hoped I could find his records to get a date or rough idea. I now don’t even know if he was born in Ireland!
Or even where he died
I’m really struggling with all my Irish links :-(
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See also- http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=802006
Yes that’s my post from earlier trying to locate Margaret’s birth in Ireland
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Looking at the 1873 baptism register entry for Margaret Ellen Knott, her father Edward was a private in the 51st Regiment.
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Looking at the 1873 baptism register entry for Margaret Ellen Knott, her father Edward was a private in the 51st Regiment.
So now I have to search for the 51st regiment... English or Irish lol
That can be on my list of things to do the rest of the week I think
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Well they won't be Irish Army!!
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51st Regiment Yorkshire Kings Own Light Infantry: Private Edward Knott Service no 1161. Entry in Forces War Records for 1871 and 1879.
Also FindMyPast has service records and 51st Regiment has enquiry service.. they may have early records.
Worth tracking down as service record could give dob.
shume
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Private Edward Knott born Umbersleigh, Worcestershire circa 1840/41. Enlisted in 51st Regiment on 28 February 1859, discharged in 1879. Intended place of residence originally was c/o William Knott, 5 Kings Street, West Bromwich but this was scrubbed out and altered to "Waterford".
No marriage details in the army papers but his wife's name was Margaret per the (RC) baptism record
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1883 death record for Edward Knott aged 42, in Little Newtown, Waterford, widow Margaret:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06372/4828640.pdf
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1883 death record for Edward Knott aged 42, in Little Newtown, Waterford, widow Margaret:
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06372/4828640.pdf
All this and more found yesterday on other thread- this death in reply #19-
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=802006.18
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Thank you, yes a few bits had been found late on yesterday. I will have to see if my library has a FindMyPast subscription so I can print the info etc.
Quite shocked of it being a yorkshire regiment though as so many years later their great great grandchildren or whatever moved here and chose yorkshire too
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Quite shocked of it being a yorkshire regiment
Recruiting sergeants went all over the islands to find new recruits so not really a surprise.
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The 51st Regiment wasn't tagged to Yorkshire until the 1870's. Edward Knott originally attested for the 31st Foot in Bristol in 1859. He transferred to 51st in 1861.
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Suppose it’s just coincidence
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Also a pension record for him on FindMyPast, dated July 1882, issued at Waterford
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So is this an older brother of Margaret Ellen Knott?
Edward Knott buried Faizabad at St. Mary's church in 1872 his occupation was son of Pte. 51st Regt. K.O.L Infy
https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/
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Yes I quickly printed that hit I seen on family search. I think it’s definately possible
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There is this odd entry off free bdm
Marriages Dec 1865
Carberry Margaret Manchester 8d 760
Carbury Margaret Manchester 8d 760
I can't work out who the groom is, maybe a possible for Edward Knott for one of these ladies?
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Freebmd - 2 males, 2 females [ 1 of them indexed under 2 spellings].
Marriages Dec 1865
Burney Michael Manchester 8d 760
Carberry Margaret Manchester 8d 760
Carbury Margaret Manchester 8d 760
Crinion Mary Manchester 8d 760
Duckworth James Manchester 8d 760
No Edward Knott there.
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An 1890 Waterford marriage of Richard Carbery to an illiterate Margaret "Nott" nee Hunt, widow, has been posted on the other thread. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=802006.18
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An 1890 Waterford marriage of Richard Carbery to an illiterate Margaret "Nott" nee Hunt, widow, has been posted on the other thread. http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=802006.18
Yeah I seen this one. Need to go through all the links and see if dates and stuff match up. Hopefully they do then I’m a tad further in to the rabbit hole of my Irish side
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So is this an older brother of Margaret Ellen Knott?
Edward Knott buried Faizabad at St. Mary's church in 1872 his occupation was son of Pte. 51st Regt. K.O.L Infy
https://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/
Thank you for posting that link though, I didn’t know if there would be a site available for this so it’s great :-)