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Title: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: carom on Wednesday 17 October 18 20:06 BST (UK)
My gt. grandmother had 2 sisters who both married in Vienna.
The first was Laura Gardner b. Maidstone 1850 who according to family search married Hugo Jerzabek on 20/3/1893.
The second was Emmeline Gardner b. 1851 in Maidstone. We have a photo taken by a Viennese photographer and on the reverse someone has written Emmeline and Professor Cusack.
Can anyone tell me what resources there are for further research?
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: crisane on Wednesday 17 October 18 20:42 BST (UK)
There are quite a few resources for Austria on Cyndi's List. I haven't checked them out.
https://www.cyndislist.com/austria/
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: Svenja on Thursday 18 October 18 21:26 BST (UK)
Hi Carom

The churchbooks of Vienna are online, but you need to know which part of the city they lived in.
http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/

Familysearch has register cards for people who lived at Vienna and the Jewish Comunity registers.

You said you found it already but did you look at the original image? There is mentionned Laura's place of birth as Maidstone. Hugo Jerzabek was born in Brünn/Mähren, maybe you should also search there.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-8BK5-V2N?i=141&cc=2028320

Another source for Vienna is the website of the Library of Vienna (with the Lehmann address directories 1859-1942)
https://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/

Another source for Vienna and Austria is the newspapers collection of the Austrian National Library.
http://anno.onb.ac.at/anno-suche#searchMode=simple&from=1

Gruss
Svenja
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: garstonite on Friday 19 October 18 06:25 BST (UK)
My gt. grandmother had 2 sisters who both married in Vienna.
The first was Laura Gardner b. Maidstone 1850 who according to family search married Hugo Jerzabek on 20/3/1893.
The second was Emmeline Gardner b. 1851 in Maidstone. We have a photo taken by a Viennese photographer and on the reverse someone has written Emmeline and Professor Cusack.
Can anyone tell me what resources there are for further research?

did you know there was also a younger sister Julia L Gardner as well
residing in Waterside ,Kent and it states Emmeline was b 1852 - and Laura was Laure E Gardner

http://www.rootspoint.com/record/1871-UK-Census/Emmeline-Gardner-1852-Kent/b255ab7c-40bf-45b3-99ca-a5f3f9469e35/
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: carom on Friday 19 October 18 09:27 BST (UK)
Thank you for the replies, this is my first venture into Austrian records so I'm grateful for the leads.
I did look at the original entry for Hugo Jerzabek and Laura, but despite having studied German many years ago, was having difficulty deciphering the handwriting. I think the cert. shows he was a manufacturer of some sort.I'll go back and look again.

Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: Svenja on Friday 19 October 18 15:25 BST (UK)
Hi Carom

I think he was a Leinwand-Fabrikant and he lived at Mariahilfer-Strasse 81 in the VI District of Vienna.
I didn't find him in the Lehmann City directories of 1892, 1893 and 1894, but I didn't look at later years.
Laura lived at Nibelungengasse 7 in the I District of Vienna at the time of her marriage.

Regards
Svenja

Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: carom on Friday 19 October 18 16:48 BST (UK)
Hi Svenja,
Thanks for the extra info. Can I ask if you can make out what Laura's occupation was?
Caro
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: Svenja on Friday 19 October 18 23:41 BST (UK)
Hi Carom

I think I have finally found a death notice for Laura Jerzabek, but not in Vienna or Austria.
In a newspaper of Geneva, Switzerland, the "Journal de Genève" of July 11, 1899, I found this:

Décès: Laura Jerzabek, marié, 50 ans, Autriche-Hongrie
Death: Laura Jerzabek, married, age 50, Austria-Hungary

http://www.letempsarchives.ch/page/JDG_1899_07_11/3/article/5455495/%22Laura%20Jerzabek%22

Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: carom on Saturday 20 October 18 08:25 BST (UK)
Hi Svenja,
Thank you once again, I would never have found that.
Caro
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: Svenja on Saturday 20 October 18 15:33 BST (UK)
Hi Carom

I looked at the church records of Brünn/Brno in Moravia (Sv. Jakub 1840-1848, page 19) and I have just found a Hugo Jerzabek who was born 28th March 1841 and baptised 30th March 1841.

Hugo Anton Franz Vincenz, Father: Jerzabek Franz, Mother: Vincenzia Prager, Godfather: Anton Prager.
http://actapublica.eu/matriky/brno/prohlizec/7869/?strana=19

In this church records I also found the baptisms of some brothers and sisters of Hugo Jerzabek almost every year until at least 1850 (I didn't look at later years). It is interesting to look up all this baptism entries because of the profession of the father.

In the newspapers at Anno there is also mentionned a Hugo Jerzabek who lived at Mährisch Schönberg in 1872 but he was born in Brünn. He was married with Emilie Winkler before 1872 and they had at least one son. They refused to register their marriage and the baptism of their child in the church records.

Hugo Jerzabek, age 55, was buried on the 14.03.1897 on the Wiener Zentralfriedhof. His place and date of birth are not mentionned but it could be the same of which I found the baptism in Brünn.

https://www.friedhoefewien.at/grabsuche_de

Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: carom on Sunday 21 October 18 11:42 BST (UK)
I am puzzled by the death notice in the Journal de Geneve, in that it mentions Austria-Hungary.
Does this mean she died in Geneva, or was it that the family had connections in Geneva, so chose to announce her death in that city's paper?
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: Svenja on Sunday 21 October 18 13:31 BST (UK)
Hi Carom

Usually the people mentionned under "décès" in the "Journal de Genève" died in Geneva. Austria-Hungary is mentionned as place where she came from or as her nationality, which she gained with the marriage.

Unfortunately the death records of the time period in question are not available online. Only the "registres de l'état civil" before 1880 are online on the website of the Archive de l'Etat de Genève.

https://ge.ch/arvaegconsult/ws/consaeg/public/FICHE/AEGSearch

I don't know if the death records of 1899 are also held in this archive or if they are still held in the registry office (état civil). I also don't know if there still exists a burial register for the time period in question. I have asked this questions about death records and burial registers in the Swiss Genealogy Forum "Geneal-Forum".
https://www.geneal-forum.com/phpbb/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=27245&p=99318#p99318

The answer: The death records of the civil registry office (état civil) should also be at the State archive of Geneva (archive de l'Etat de Genève). So you should write to the archive and ask for the death record of Laura Jerzabek in July 1899, maybe you add the link to the newspaper. Maybe the death record mentions her place and date of birth or the place were she lived (Vienna) or the name of her husband, so you could know if she is the right one.

Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: Svenja on Sunday 21 October 18 16:21 BST (UK)
Hi Carom

In Mährisch-Schönberg really existed a Leinenwarenfabrik under the name Bischof & Jerzabek!
https://www.nordmaehren.com/Luftaufnahmen/Info/Maehr_Schoenberg/MSchoenberg.html

The Austrian newspapers mention some entries in the commercial register of Olmütz which say that Bischof & Jerzabek in Mährisch Schönberg were Ferdinand Bischof, his wife Katharina and Hugo Jerzabek. Bischof & Jerzabek started on April 1873 and Hugo Jerzabek left the firm before September 1897.

http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=wrz&datum=18971002&query=%22Ferdinand+Bischof%22&ref=anno-search&seite=27

I tried to find more information about Hugo Jerzabek and his wife Emilie Winkler in Mährisch Schönberg in 1871 and later years.
I searched on the website of the Digital Archives of Opava for the "Archiv mesta Sumperk 1871" (Archives of the Town of Mährisch Schönberg).
But I couldn't find birth/baptism or marriage entries, only the death registers (1858-1871 and 1871-1880).

http://digi.archives.cz/da/SearchBean.action?searchType=basic

Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: Svenja on Monday 17 December 18 19:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Carom

Good News! In the Swiss Geneal Forum someone has found the death record of Laura Jerzabek née Gardner in Geneva.

https://www.geneal-forum.com/phpbb/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=99987#p99987

le registre des décès de Genève de 1898, acte no 20, folio 120: Laura JERZABEK née GARDNER, +vendredi 09.06.1898 à 21.00, Genève, rue du Mont-Blanc 6, Pension Richardet, d'appoplexie cérébrale, sans profession, fille de James GARDNER et Elisabeth GARDNER, veuve de Hugo JERZABEK, née le 09.04.1858, originaire d'Autriche, catholique, sur déclaration d'Emile KAISER, entrepreneur, domicilié à Schönberg, Autriche.

death register of Geneva of 1898, certificate no 20, page 120: Laura JERZABEK née GARDNER, +Friday 09.06.1898 at 9 pm, Geneva, rue du Mont-Blanc 6 (street), Pension (Hotel) Richardet, cause of death: appoplexie cerebrale, without profession, daughter of James GARDNER and Elisabeth GARDNER, widow of Hugo JERZABEK, née on 09.04.1858, origin Austria, catholic, death declared by Emile KAISER, businessman, residing at Schönberg, Austria (maybe Mährisch-Schönberg).

Regards
Svenja
Title: Re: Austria research -Gardner sisters
Post by: carom on Tuesday 18 December 18 14:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Svenja,
Thank you for going to so much trouble to help me find out more about Laura, I would never have found it on my own.

Best wishes to you
Caro