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Title: patrick brennan
Post by: kiffagh on Friday 19 October 18 13:44 BST (UK)
i am trying to trace what happened to a Patrick brennan born 1877 approx. in kiltormer county galway.he went to America sometime around 1890. his parents where a john brennan and Margaret larkin. he is supposed to have gone to his sisters in new York and was causing trouble and was sent back to Ireland. he returned to America and was never heard off again. his sisters names where Margaret, bridget and mary. i don't know which of these girls went to america
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 14:20 BST (UK)
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=9   

Registration District :    Ballinasloe
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 14:25 BST (UK)
Civil Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Brennan of Ballinasloe from 1864 to 1899


http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mvq/

You can search Births.... then Marriages for any that stayed.
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 14:30 BST (UK)
You're better of studying them yourself, then you learn how to amend search for children of any that Married....and even Marriages for next generation up to mid 1900's at your leisure.
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: heywood on Friday 19 October 18 14:32 BST (UK)
Hello,
Is this your family? There is a Patrick but siblings are brothers not sisters  :-\

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Kiltormer/Kiltormer_East/1368530/
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 14:37 BST (UK)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Kiltormer/Kiltormer__East/449713/

If so then 1 brother Married after 1901 so amend Civil Reg search to    Marriages 1901 to 1911
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 14:40 BST (UK)
As you see father died between census so just amend search accordingly..... etc
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: josey on Friday 19 October 18 14:42 BST (UK)
As an aside - strange that on 1911 census found by hallmark that John Brennan made his mark [witnessed by enumerator] but states he can read & write  ???
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: oldohiohome on Friday 19 October 18 14:44 BST (UK)
Familysearch shows 4 daughters to this couple, including an Ellen (Brennan) Ross who died in New York City, also Bridget, Mary, and Margaret:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bfather_givenname%3Ajohn~%20%2Bfather_surname%3Abrennan~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Amargaret~%20%2Bmother_surname%3Alarkin~
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 14:45 BST (UK)
One you see how easy it is you can then look for Marriage of  john brennan and Margaret larkin.... get their fathers and addresses etc.

 
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: oldohiohome on Friday 19 October 18 14:46 BST (UK)
New York, New York City Municipal Deaths, 1795-1949

Name:   Ellen Ross
Event Type:   Death
Event Date:   31 Jan 1937
Event Place:   New York City, Queens, New York, United States
Address:   37-09 62nd St.
Residence Place:   Queens
Gender:   Female
Age:   64
Marital Status:   Widowed
Race:   White
Occupation:   Housewife
Birth Date:   10 Apr 1872
Birthplace:   Ireland
Burial Date:   03 Feb 1937
Cemetery:   Calvary
Father's Name:   John Brennan
Father's Birthplace:   Ireland
Mother's Name:   Margaret Larkin
Mother's Birthplace:   Ireland

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WL9-Y7H

The address might come in handy when looking for Patrick.
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 14:47 BST (UK)
As an aside - strange that on 1911 census found by hallmark that John Brennan made his mark [witnessed by enumerator] but states he can read & write  ???


Maybe he couldn't find a pen??   ;D
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: oldohiohome on Friday 19 October 18 14:51 BST (UK)

October 10, 1879, Maddenstown, Kiltormer

Patrick son of John Brennan a farmer of Maddenstown, and Margaret Brennan, formerly Larkin. informant: the father


28 Patrick Brennans, born between 1878 and 1880, arrivals:

https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/engine/gold.php?uid=15238956257341523895655764&referrer=httpsstevemorse.orgellis2ellisgold.html&mode=running&time=1539956851677&arrivalPort=ellisgold&email=&firstkind=close&FNM=patrick&kind=close&LNM=brennan&companionkind=close&CNM=&townkind=close&town=&SHP=&prtkind=close&PRT=&SYR=&EYR=&MONTH=&DAY=&SAGE=&EAGE=&offset=1&MRTL=&BSYR=1878&BEYR=1880&pagesize=50&CGD=&ETHS=49&FLD=name&FLD=yoa&FLD=age&FLD=passrec&FLD=town&FLD=smanifest&FLD=image&FLD=yob&FLD=annotations&SRT=name&DIRECTION=asc&username=010010013018025012028027001011074052002029014007009093023010029&password=093094080070017009028006029


I've sifted through a lot more than 28. Plus you can eliminate a lot by place of origin, e.g, he's not the one from Donegal.
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: heywood on Friday 19 October 18 14:52 BST (UK)
There are at least two immigration records for Patrick Brennan, Ballinasloe to his sister.

1902 to sister (no name) 230 E 54th Street

1906 to Mrs Ross, 230 E 54th Street

https://www.libertyellisfoundation.org
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: oldohiohome on Friday 19 October 18 14:52 BST (UK)
There are at least two immigration records for Patrick Brennan, Ballinasloe to his sister.

1902 to sister (no name) 230 E 54th Street

1906 to Mrs Ross, 230 E 54th Street

https://www.libertyellisfoundation.org

that narrowed it down pretty quick :)
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: heywood on Friday 19 October 18 14:57 BST (UK)
There is no mention of sister Ellen by kiffagh.

There is an Ellen b 1868, of Kiltormer West,  with parents Patrick and Margaret but she is Hardiman.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03426/2256856.pdf
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: kiffagh on Friday 19 October 18 18:25 BST (UK)
thank you for every one for all their help
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: heywood on Friday 19 October 18 18:28 BST (UK)
It’s a pleasure.
Is it the right family - those brothers and no sister Ellen mentioned by you?
Also different travel years. :-\
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: kiffagh on Friday 19 October 18 18:49 BST (UK)
it is the right family , Patrick's brothers stayed in galway and so i have to find where Patrick went
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 18:53 BST (UK)
Yes, you know he was single on Census so that would be your starting point to look for Marriage or Death.

So amend the search criteria accordingly.
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: heywood on Friday 19 October 18 18:54 BST (UK)
Thank you.
You have some leads there perhaps with Ellen.
If you think he definitely stayed in US, you could post on US board.
There are several P Bs in US censuses but there might be other information re naturalisation/marriage etc.
There may be an obituary for Ellen which could mention her brother.
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 19:04 BST (UK)
If he went to USA then probably nothing else for him in Ireland!
Title: Re: patrick brennan
Post by: hallmark on Friday 19 October 18 19:15 BST (UK)
US thread.....

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=802229.msg6601162