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Title: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: davidft on Friday 19 October 18 17:04 BST (UK)
I am looking for a marriage of a Thomas Landreth to a Jane Mole (sometimes transcribed as Moll)   around 1825. I thought I had found it a month or so ago but cannot seem to place it at the moment, so maybe not!

So if anyone fancies having a look the details are

Jane Mole (Moll) 1802-1890 born Norham, Northumberland (a detached parish of Durham)
Thomas Landreth c1803-1864 born Tweedmouth, Northumberland according to censuses but some online trees say Roxburghshire Scotland but without any source.

The couple’s first son is born 1825/6 at Gallowhill Bolam, Northumberland according to the 1851 census (I did not find him in the parish register) so the marriage should be before then. Most of the couple’s children are actually born in the Chester Le Street, Durham registration district where the couple settled and looking at the GRO index of the children born post 1837 confirms the mother’s maiden name of Mole (Moll).

I am aware that there is a marriage at Welbury, Yorks on 13/9/1829 of a Thomas Landreth to a Jane Byers and several online trees cite this marriage incorrectly. That is a separate couple who live in Yorkshire all their lives and raise their family there as confirmed by the censuses and parish register records.

Any help looking for the marriage would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 19 October 18 21:50 BST (UK)
Hi

Jane or Mary??  (EDIT - 1841 shows Jane)


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Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage

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I am looking for a marriage of a Thomas Landreth to a Mary Mole (sometimes transcribed as Moll)
Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: davidft on Friday 19 October 18 22:31 BST (UK)
Many apologies. It should definitely be Jane, no idea where Mary came from!

I have altered the original post.

Thank you
Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: Millmoor on Friday 19 October 18 23:20 BST (UK)
There is a baptism Feb 8 1825 for a Mary Ann Landreth in Norham - parents named as Thomas and Jane. Abode given as Gallowhill, Bolam.  Occupation steward. So if the same Thomas and Jane marriage should be before then (Have looked at the Norham Bt's but cannot see a marriage for them).

Mary Ann Landreth seems to have married Lewis Broadbent when a minor in 1843 (marriage by licence in Pelton) - he was a doctor. She appears to be recorded as Mary Landrath in the 1841 a F S in the same home as Lewis - it is not until 1871/1881 that her pob given as Norham. Her death notice in Nov 1890 gives age as 66- so perhaps marriage of Thomas and Jane was 1823/4 or earlier.

Have you considered the possibility of an irregular marriage?

William
Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: davidft on Friday 19 October 18 23:41 BST (UK)
Hello

Yes Mary Ann is one of the children (Jane's mother was a Mary). I had not looked at that particular baptism so interesting that it gives the abode as Gallowhill, Bolam as that is where her brother William gives as his place of birth on the 1851 census.

I had not followed her marriage but it is intersting that it was to a Lewis Broadbent as Thomas and Jane name their last child as Lewis Broadbent Landreth in 1845.

I hope to go to the Library next week and will be will try to look for an irregular marriage there.

Thank you for all those suggestions they are really hopeful

David
Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: Millmoor on Friday 19 October 18 23:43 BST (UK)
The Bolam Bts can be accessed via the Familysearch catalogue. I wonder if the surname Landreth has been incorrectly recorded.

Image 147 has this baptism Jan1 1826 William son of Thomas and Jane Landers? ( surname difficult to read!). Abode Gallowhill.Occupation labourer.

Image 153 has the baptism of  Elizabeth with the same parents, abode and father's occupation.

William
Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: davidft on Friday 19 October 18 23:46 BST (UK)
The Bolam Bts can be accessed via the Familysearch catalogue. I wonder if the surname Landreth has been incorrectly recorded.

Image 147 has this baptism Jan1 1826 William son of Thomas and Jane Landers? ( surname difficult to read!). Abode Gallowhill.Occupation labourer.

Image 153 has the baptism of  Elizabeth with the same parents, abode and father's occupation.

William

Thank you that is excellent. I will look them out tomorrow (Saturday) and copy the appropriate bits.
Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: davidft on Monday 22 October 18 15:27 BST (UK)

Image 147 has this baptism Jan1 1826 William son of Thomas and Jane Landers? ( surname difficult to read!). Abode Gallowhill.Occupation labourer.


Just to say familysearch has transcribed this as Larnders so that's a new variation for me to look at. Thanks again for your help.
Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: SelDen on Tuesday 23 October 18 08:30 BST (UK)
I could not see the marriage in volumes 1 or 2 of the booklets of Border marriages published by NDFHS.

I did notice the surname Moule and also checked this as I wondered if it was a possible variant of Mole. No luck however.

As you probably know, records survive for only a small proportion of the irregular marriages that took place.
Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: davidft on Tuesday 23 October 18 12:13 BST (UK)
Thank you for looking that up. I am trying all sorts of permutations at the moment. It doesn't help that there are several Thomas Landreth's around at the same time and whilst some people say his parents are George Landreth and Margaret Baillie I am convinced that is wrong not least because it would mean they had three sons called Thomas and two of them living at the same time for a time span of 50 years plus.

I have looked on Scotlands people as well under both Thomas's name and variants and Jane's name and variants and just tried Moule as well but so far no go.

The search continues (and they are not even my ancestors!)
Title: Re: Thomas Landreth & Jane Mole (Moll) marriage
Post by: davidft on Sunday 04 November 18 16:54 GMT (UK)
Well it’s not getting any easier. There appear to be two George Landreft’s married to a Margaret and both have sons called Thomas.

Marriage: George Landreth & Margaret Jameson 20 Aug 1787, Roxburgh,Roxburgh,Scotland

Marriage: George Landreth & Margaret Baillie 6 June 1797. Golden Square Presbyterian or Scotch Church, Berwick Upon Tweed, Northumberland, England

Birth Thomas Landreth 29 Jul 1804, ROXBURGH, ROXBURGH, SCOTLAND
Father George Landreth Mother Margaret Jamison. Is this a possible for the Thomas born c1803 Tweedmouth? Or is it the Thomas Landreft resident in Kelso in the 1851 Scottish census.

Birth and baptism.Thomas Landreth born 16 Oct 1811, baptism 18 Nov 1811
GOLDEN SQUARE PRESBYTERIAN OR SCOTCH CHURCH,BERWICK UPON TWEED,NORTHUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
Father George Landreth Mother Margaret (this is Margaret Baillie). This Thomas Landreft lives until 1893 and is not the one I am looking for.