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Research in Other Countries => Immigrants & Emigrants - General => Topic started by: stannarp on Wednesday 24 October 18 19:29 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
If anyone has access to passenger detailed passenger lists for South Africa, I would greatly appreciate any information on:
Margaret Ryan / John Bleach emigration to South Africa 1850 - 1865
also Jonathan Bennett in the same timeframe.
I have some indication that Margaret Ryan was born in Ireland (Waterford) in abt 1827 (death notice); she married John Bleach approx 1857, but not sure where. He died in 1862, possibly Queenstown, South Africa (information from gravestone).
She married Jonathan Bennett approx 1865, presumably in Queenstown, and I have him as originating in Surrey or Sussex, England (death notice, hard to decipher) in 1827.
The reason for the biographical info on this board is ... they could have jointly or separately sailed from either England or Ireland.
I think that it is a strong possibility that Margaret Ryan and John Bleach arrived in South Africa as a married couple; but almost certain that Jonathan Bennett arrived as a bachelor, as I have found no trace of a first wife so far.
Regards,
Patricia
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Nothing found on ancestry South Africa Immigration Index 1858 - 1986 or South Africa, Passenger Index, 1688-1950 :-\
Sandra
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Thanks so much Sandra!
If anyone has any other ideas about how I can find out how and when they arrived in South Africa, they'd be greatly appreciated!
Regards,
Patricia
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There is a death for a Margaret Ryan Bleach Bennett in 1901, Queenstown, Cape Province.
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Marriage:
Dec 1851 Scarbro' 24 687
Bleach John to Margaret Ryan
I see no UK births for the surname combination, so they may have sailed soon after marriage.
Jamjar
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPC2-DNYK
Name: Mr John Bleach
Titles and Terms: Mr
Event Type: Marriage Notice
Event Date: 1 Nov 1851
Event Place: York, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place: York, Yorkshire, England
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Miss Margaret Ryan
Spouse's Titles and Terms: Miss
Spouse's Gender: Female
Newspaper: Yorkshire Gazette
Jamjar
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Thanks solidrock, I found that one, which is how I found her approx dates and John Bleach :-)
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Hi Jamjar,
Thanks so much for the info, I really appreciate it :-), at least it gets me one step further - this branch of the family tree has proved quite elusive over the years!
Regards,
Patricia
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Hi all,
Thanks for the assists, I've found some other info about how they could have got to South Africa thanks to another thread on the Irish board:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=802585
Bit of a puzzle for me to figure out, but I think they came on a troop carrier as it seems John Bleach was probably a private, and his wife came with him (apparently possible by lottery).
Marking this one as complete.
Regards,
Patricia
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From your other thread - I posted this so maybe this info should be here instead/ as well as the Irish thread.
Here is John, I think in 1851 2268/611/23
John Bleach b 1825 Havant, Hampshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGYQ-TKH
Earlier in the census pages, on page 4, the officers are shown as 85th Light Infantry. They are at Fulwood Barracks, Preston, Lancashire. Is this is a different regiment though to 85th Bucks? :-\
Later the same year, he marries Margaret in Scarborough.
There is a birth
1853 June quarter Isle of Wight
Sarah Ann Bleach mmn Ryan