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Title: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: sugarfizzle on Thursday 25 October 18 09:58 BST (UK)
I have already queried this, mistakenly on Cambridgeshire board (don't ask why, confusion increasing daily!!).

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=802449.0

My 4G grandmother, Sarah Higgins, nee Clark/e was born about 1784.

In 1851 her birth place is given as Long Addenham, Bucks; in 1861 it is given as Haddenham, Bucks. She was living in Kingsey, Bucks in 1841, (51 see later) and 61 censuses.

I wondered if there was a Long Addenham nearby at all? Are there any Buckinghamshire parish records available online?

Hoping someone with local knowledge will be able to help me out.

Regards Margaret

Modified, in case anybody looks her up in census. In 1851 census living with her daughter, Keziah Hawkins, in Reading, Berkshire.
Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 25 October 18 10:17 BST (UK)
I think Long Addenham is in Yorkshire?

Quoting from "The works of Thomas Gray":
" I passed through Long-Addenham, Ilkeley, (pronounced Eecly) distinguished by a lofty brow of loose rocks to the right; Burley, a neat and pretty village, among trees; on the opposite side of the river lay Middleton Lodge, belonging to a Catholic gentleman of that name; Weston, a venerable stone fabric, with large offices, of Mr. Vavasour, the meadows in front descending gently to the water, and behind a great shady wood."

Also mentioned is Farnley and Otley.
I suspect Burley is Burley in Wharfedale or Burley Woodhead?
Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 25 October 18 14:07 BST (UK)
Have you also checked Oxfordshire,   Haddenham/Kingsey are very close to the County boundary  :-\

Where did she marry
Presume she is the 1803 marriage at Kingsey to John Higgins
Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: Sc00p on Thursday 25 October 18 19:58 BST (UK)
No Long Addenham to the best of my knowledge.  There is a Long Crendon.
The 1851 has her visiting Reading with the Hawkins family and not in Kingsey?  Looks like Keziah Hawkins (34y) may be her daughter as there is a Kingsey baptism for Keziah Higgins  (Father John, Mother Sarah) 2 Oct 1817.

Have you looked at original PR's or just indexes. 
Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: Chilternbirder on Thursday 25 October 18 21:17 BST (UK)
Just Haddenham written phonetically?

I am not aware of a "Long (H)addenham" but the present large village is mostly modern development linking a group of hamlets.
Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: sugarfizzle on Friday 26 October 18 05:57 BST (UK)
Thank you all for your replies.

Apologies, in 1851 she was indeed with her daughter Keziah in Reading, not in Kingsey. Very likely that if she had said 'addenham in Kingsey it would have been recognised as Haddenham. But I was wondering if the 'Long' made it a different place.

I haven't seen any PRs for Haddenham, Buck8nghamshire at all, or any transcriptions, there don't appear to be any online. When I first looked, Familysearch came up with Haddenham, Cambridgeshire, which led me to posting on the Cambridgeshire board, not realising (or properly thinking!) that they were different places, hence the somewhat sarcastic comments on the Cambridgeshire board!! Fully justified, I might add.

If anybody could point the way to any, or do a look up for me, I would be extremely grateful. Sarah Clark was my 4G grandmother, I haven't got very far really with this family.  If I had mtDNA testing, Sarah would be the earliest on that line that I have found so far.

Regards Margaret
Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: jonw65 on Friday 26 October 18 10:01 BST (UK)
Buckinghamshire Baptism Index on FindMyPast. Includes Haddenham. Free info given in search results - name, parish, year of baptism, names of parents.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/buckinghamshire-baptism-index

Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: [Ray] on Friday 26 October 18 10:27 BST (UK)
Hi
My vote is  . . . . . Haddenham Low ( aka Low Haddenham ? )    Just a little closer to Aylesbury.     


Consider also, various permutations of H / H written almost as an L / with Addenham-Haddenham-etc., could get same effect when enumerator tries to transcribe notes taken down.     


Almost in the (recent RC thread) form of "Lawyer / Hurdle Maker" came from "Sawyer / Hurdle Maker"     ?

Ray

Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: Chilternbirder on Friday 26 October 18 16:42 BST (UK)
Hi
My vote is  . . . . . Haddenham Low ( aka Low Haddenham ? )    Just a little closer to Aylesbury.     


Consider also, various permutations of H / H written almost as an L / with Addenham-Haddenham-etc., could get same effect when enumerator tries to transcribe notes taken down.     


Almost in the (recent RC thread) form of "Lawyer / Hurdle Maker" came from "Sawyer / Hurdle Maker"     ?

Ray
Haddenham Low is, and was, a single property, I agree that it is likely but only if there is a direct family connection with the farm.
Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: [Ray] on Saturday 27 October 18 09:44 BST (UK)
Hi Peter     


My point is that it may have been a v.small handful of "estate" buildings mainly for "staff".     
( of which nowadays not much is left )

Good job it is not our job to (dis)prove, we have just provided some reasonable possible answer to the question.     
 ;D
Ray
Good luck Sugarfizzle

     


 


Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: sugarfizzle on Sunday 28 October 18 11:25 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your help.

Low Haddenham is a possibility, I will look into it, but think it unlikely if it was just a single dwelling house.

Just wish our ancestors could have been more accurate/specific with their ages and birthplaces.

Thanks again to all.

Regards Margaret
Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: [Ray] on Sunday 28 October 18 16:10 GMT (UK)
Hi     

Obviously a little more important than I thought . . . . .


http://www.tvas.co.uk/reports/pdf/HLF05-14wb.pdf     


R


Title: Re: Is there a Long Addenham nr Haddenham?
Post by: ggrocott on Monday 05 November 18 15:41 GMT (UK)
I have Clarke's from Haddenham Bucks on my tree but the furthest I go back is Solomon Clarke born c 1800 who married Sophia Small.   Have not really looked for early Clarke's because I am descended from Sophia's ancestor.  The later Clarke's are on my tree as part of my search for DNA links.

If I find anything I will let you know.