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Title: The Chappell family
Post by: Helina on Saturday 27 October 18 07:38 BST (UK)
Looks very likely this family moved to America in the 1860's

Sarah Jane Gardner b 1847 Hawkesbury Gloucestershire, parents Lewis and Elizabeth Gardner.  Sarah married Luke Chappell in 1865 Hawkesbury.  After that year ancestry gives entries referring to the USA which I do not have access to.

Any help would be appreciated

helina
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: Brentor boy on Saturday 27 October 18 09:08 BST (UK)
Family Search  has a Luke Chappell, born England October 1843, (or 1845), emigrated 1870, living in Freedom,  Portage, Ohio in 1900 and 1920 BUT wife Mary Ann!

Also death of Mary Ann Chappell in 1935. (Maiden name Handy)

Deaths of children of Luke Chappell (and variations). One  gives mother's name as Mary  Gardener,  the other Jane Gardener.

Picture of Luke's grave on Find a Grave

William Chappell married  Portage, Ohio in 1901. Son of Luke Chappell and Sarah Gardener.

Needs some careful cross checking. Could be two Lukes!
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: Brentor boy on Saturday 27 October 18 10:09 BST (UK)
Charles Chappell married Portage, Ohio, 1906. Parents Luke Cappell and Mary (Handy)

Born Elyria, Ohio. 1884.

In 1910 Luke  and Mary Ann recorded as Married for 31 years.

All very confusing!
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 27 October 18 14:21 BST (UK)
In 1910 Luke  and Mary Ann recorded as Married for 31 years.

The 1910 census indicates that it was a second marriage for Luke and first marriage for Mary Ann. 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RKQ-G6B?i=16&cc=1727033 
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 27 October 18 14:29 BST (UK)
Possible 1874 marriage for Luke - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2QH8-NK8  Wife is listed as Ann, but maybe she is also Mary Ann.

1880 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M892-MHC

Naturalization record for Luke (the early ones don't have much personal detail) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP7R-ZNTX

1900 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM62-HV4

1920 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDRD-VDN
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 27 October 18 14:34 BST (UK)
Death of daughter Lucy - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X6D4-N19
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 27 October 18 14:36 BST (UK)
Gravestone of Luke & Mary - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/86325394
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: Helina on Saturday 27 October 18 15:33 BST (UK)
Thank you for looking. Still confused, been looking to see if Sarah Jane had died and that's why Luke went to the States but found nothing.

helina
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: Helina on Saturday 27 October 18 15:42 BST (UK)
The marriage cert. The surname Chappell changes sometimes to Chapple

helina

Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: RJ137 on Saturday 27 October 18 17:04 BST (UK)
In 1910 Luke  and Mary Ann recorded as Married for 31 years.

The 1910 census indicates that it was a second marriage for Luke and first marriage for Mary Ann. 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RKQ-G6B?i=16&cc=1727033

Possible 1874 marriage for Luke - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2QH8-NK8  Wife is listed as Ann, but maybe she is also Mary Ann.

1880 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M892-MHC

Naturalization record for Luke (the early ones don't have much personal detail) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP7R-ZNTX

1900 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MM62-HV4

1920 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDRD-VDN

To add to the confusion. Here's what i'm seeing.

I think he immigrated to America then went back to England for a spell and then returned to the US then went back to England and finally returned to the US in 1879.

I think the Ann Hughes he married in 1874 and the Mary Ann in later censuses are different people, as records will indicate.

The Naturalization record for Luke states he 1st arrived in 1867. The two children in the 1880 census were born in England abt 1868 & 1871. He married Miss Ann Hughes in 1874. I think sometime after that he went back to England ( I think his 1st wife Sarah Jane Gardner may have died) and returns in 1879 with the two children. Luke and  Ann Hughes get divorced (willful absence) in 1879. Luke then gets married to the Mary Ann who appears after that.

Here is a passenger ship record with Luke and the two children from the 1880 census arriving in 1879
 
Ship's record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPN-H6DK 

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Below is clipping about the divorce being granted in 1879. In 1880 census he was living in Ridgeville, this has to be him.


___Luke Chappell, of Ridgeville, was
granted a divorce from An? H. Chappell
Friday on the ground of wilfull absence.
(see attached below)

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Can any records be found of Luke arriving back in England during this time frame (1868-1879) or leaving England (especially in 1879 with the 2 kids) during this time frame?
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: shellyesq on Saturday 27 October 18 22:43 BST (UK)
To make matters more complicated, I wonder if these are additional children of Luke's:

Helen Maud Crisp, daughter of Luke Chappel & Jane Gardner, born circa 1871 in England - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X858-VTM

Her marriage seems to be in 1890 under Nellie M. Chappell to Albert Bentley Crisp.  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZ1J-QHB

Matilda Chapple, daughter of Luke Chapple & Ann Hughes - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XXSR-4M4
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: shellyesq on Sunday 28 October 18 02:25 GMT (UK)
Helen M. Crisp's obituary lists (aside from her husband and children) her survivors as her father, stepmother, 2 brothers, and 2 sisters, but none of those are named.
Title: Re: The Chappell family
Post by: Helina on Sunday 28 October 18 05:30 GMT (UK)
Been searching on the GRO site and found this entry for a Ellen Chappell

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

helina