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Title: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 21:10 BST (UK)
Hi All
Is there any links to BMD records for Tipperary and Wexford please, just started on the maternal side of my family tree and found some were born in Callan, Co Tipperary and also some in Wexford.
Thanks for any help with links to search.
Thanks Karen

Moderator edit: subject modified at OP's request.
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 21:12 BST (UK)
Hi All
Is there any links to BMD records for Tipperary and Wexford please, just started on the maternal side of my family tree and found some were born in Callan, Co Tipperary and also some in Wexford.
Thanks for any help with links to search.
Thanks Karen

plenty!

Religion?

Century?
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 27 October 18 21:13 BST (UK)
Civil BMD records with images of certs although not complete yet
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 21:14 BST (UK)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 21:21 BST (UK)
Just fill in as best as you can.... year ranges too

Not too difficult and after finding the first few yourself, if you can, it will teach you how easy they are to use.

Once you learn you can return and search at your leisure as and when you like.
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Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 21:24 BST (UK)
I have found a William Davin born abt 1849 Callan, Co Tipperary, I would also definitely say they were RC, he married in Liverpool in 1875 his wife Annie Phelan was also born in Callan abt 1856.
Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 21:32 BST (UK)
Even if you only put the Surname in,    Callan    1870 - 1880   tick marriages  you can look for siblings marrying etc. at your leisure

Or Parents Deaths etc.
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 21:35 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for your help hallmark & sinnan, I will have a search through see what I can find (you'll probably hear from me again soon 🙈)
Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 21:36 BST (UK)
Also you have https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0973  Callan

Diocese of Ossory | County of Kilkenny


with basic filters for event and  year
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 21:40 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for your help hallmark & sinnan, I will have a search through see what I can find (you'll probably hear from me again soon 🙈)
Thanks
Karen



Civil Reg began 1864 for R.C's
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 21:44 BST (UK)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 21:48 BST (UK)
Thanks hallmark, I think I'll have to do a lot of research on this one, I think Annie Phelan's father was Patrick ( unsure as the marriage licence is in Latin ) so I will have a search on that to start.
Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 21:54 BST (UK)
Just had a quick look at registers.... there are worse!!

At least the child's name is in left column so you can just scroll looking at that column.
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 22:03 BST (UK)
I've just searched DAVIN in CALLAN with no dates, it returned one death and one birth 🙈🙈🙈, this is going to be hard work haha
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 22:15 BST (UK)
I've just searched DAVIN in CALLAN with no dates, it returned one death and one birth 🙈🙈🙈, this is going to be hard work haha


 ;D  ;D  a job for rootschat then!
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 22:17 BST (UK)
Haha definitely, I'm not as clever and clued up as most of you on here
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 22:35 BST (UK)
Where did Ann die?
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 22:39 BST (UK)
Ann Phelan died in Liverpool, by the looks of it Ann and William both born in Callan, left Ireland and went to Liverpool and married in 1875
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 22:44 BST (UK)
Hopefully if it attaches, this is the marriage licence of William Davin & Ann Phelan
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 22:47 BST (UK)
Where did you get Callan from?
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 22:48 BST (UK)
It's on the 1911 census from Liverpool
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 23:01 BST (UK)
Just posting a Link to

C  Reg Death results for Thomas Devin
1800s

Displaying results 1 - 11 of 11.   http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mx5/

Nothing obvious!!
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 23:11 BST (UK)
Yes, as I have nothing of certainty it's all just guess work, I might just have to start a thread with the surnames I have, see if anyone out there can help with anything.
Very grateful for all your help hallmark
Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 23:19 BST (UK)
Keep everything on this thread!
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 23:22 BST (UK)
Oh right ok, can I change the thread title to put surnames in ??
Sorry still not up to speed with all this
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: hallmark on Saturday 27 October 18 23:28 BST (UK)
Yes.... you can hit  Report to Moderator  (it is on each message)    requesting a change to what you want!
Title: Re: Links to records ?????
Post by: Kazzacross on Saturday 27 October 18 23:29 BST (UK)
Thanks hallmark , I'll do that
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Kazzacross on Sunday 28 October 18 09:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I'm searching for information anyone has on the names above, the information I have so far is
my gt gt grandad Edward Davin born 1881 in Liverpool, married in 1903 to Mary Anne Breen born 1881 in Wexford
Edwards parents, Father, William Davin born 1849 Callan, Co Tipperary, Mother, Annie Phelan born 1856 Callan, Co Tipperary, they married in Liverpool in 1875, marriage cert names the fathers Thomas Davin & Patrick Phelan
Mary's parents, Father, Robert Breen born abt 1847 Ireland, Mother, Mary Anne Blake born abt 1850 Ireland, they married in Wexford 1871, marriage cert names the fathers John Breen & Robert Blake
Thanks for any help or information with these names
Karen
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 28 October 18 10:06 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I'm searching for information anyone has on the names above, the information I have so far is
my gt gt grandad Edward Davin born 1881 in Liverpool, married in 1903 to Mary Anne Breen born 1881 in Wexford
Edwards parents, Father, William Davin born 1849 Callan, Co Tipperary, Mother, Annie Phelan born 1856 Callan, Co Tipperary, they married in Liverpool in 1875, marriage cert names the fathers Thomas Davin & Patrick Phelan
Mary's parents, Father, Robert Breen born abt 1847 Ireland, Mother, Mary Anne Blake born abt 1850 Ireland, they married in Wexford 1871, marriage cert names the fathers John Breen & Robert Blake
Thanks for any help or information with these names
Karen

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11365/8172737.pdf


fathers John Breen, Sailor & Robert Blake, Pilot
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Kazzacross on Sunday 28 October 18 10:14 GMT (UK)
Thanks hallmark, the info is so scarce
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 28 October 18 10:35 GMT (UK)
That is why it's worth your time researching them for yourself at leisure rather that have a few bits posted


on

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp



if your learn how to search then you can study them at your Leisure, return as and when you like, look for siblings marrying etc etc which may lead you to kin living today!

You can e.g.  look for Marriages 1864 to 1869....then next Marriages 1870 to 1875 etc etc by just filling in Search box accordingly

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Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 28 October 18 10:36 GMT (UK)
Just fill in what you want accordingly....

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Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 28 October 18 10:40 GMT (UK)
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/irish-roots.html

https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-family-history.html

Toolkit Top Tip

Don't ignore siblings!

Apart from adding depth and extra colour and personality to your Irish family history, members of this extended family might have left behind important records that your direct ancestor didn't.
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Kazzacross on Sunday 28 October 18 11:02 GMT (UK)
That will be my next mission, I sat last night searching through birth records for Breen born between 1871 - 1890 , I found 5 siblings of Mary Anne Breen, but she has a brother living with her called James in 1901 that I can find no birth record of.
You have been heaps of help with your info and wisdom, thanks hallmark
Karen
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 28 October 18 11:17 GMT (UK)
Excellent!

My tip would be...

when you see the List of results

right click on about 3 names and select     Open in New Tab

Check those 3 to see if they are siblings or not.  Close any that are not

then right click on about 3 more names and select     Open in New Tab


Much quicker as you have results page still there!!

Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Kazzacross on Sunday 28 October 18 11:29 GMT (UK)
Great tip, I wouldn't of thought of doing that 👍🏻
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: dathai on Sunday 28 October 18 15:01 GMT (UK)
you may find the Breen's and Blake's here
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/index.jsp
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Kazzacross on Sunday 28 October 18 15:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the link dathai , I'll have a search through and see if I can work anything out from it
Karen
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: hallmark on Sunday 28 October 18 15:51 GMT (UK)
Yes, that would have been the next step I would have advised once you had built up the base on Civil Reg then you'd know which ones to search for based on Births/Marriages found late 1800's, names, ages.

In 36 hours you've gathered 6 or 7 siblings etc, marrying 1870's.

I would have advised working births for these first on Civil Reg....then look on Census as it can become very confusing but up to you.  ;D  You'll find yourself trying to link 2 ends of a chain instead of doing them step by step by step forward in time!
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 28 October 18 21:45 GMT (UK)
Mary Anne Blake
Born 27/12/1849,baptized 28th.
Parents: Robert Blake and Mary Anne Clancy
At least 7 siblings.
Blakes can be traced back to 1700's
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 28 October 18 21:52 GMT (UK)
Robert Joseph Breen
Born and baptized 28/3/1847
Parents: John Breen and Ellen Meath
Several siblings.
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Wexflyer on Sunday 28 October 18 22:00 GMT (UK)
The Shipping Crew Lists at the National Archives show many, many records for John Breen of Wexford.
Go to http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/index.jsp (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/index.jsp)
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Kazzacross on Sunday 28 October 18 23:58 GMT (UK)
wexflyer you are a diamond, can I ask where you found this info, I have searched and searched for something and came up with nothing.
Thanks
Karen
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 29 October 18 00:44 GMT (UK)
wexflyer you are a diamond, can I ask where you found this info, I have searched and searched for something and came up with nothing.
Thanks
Karen

Easy. The Wexford parish registers. The informaton already posted says that they were from Wexford.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634138#page/171/mode/1up (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634138#page/171/mode/1up)
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634138#page/128/mode/1up (https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634138#page/128/mode/1up)

As I mentioned, there are also siblings. I am sure you can also find parents marriages, etc.
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 29 October 18 04:49 GMT (UK)
As both Messrs Blake and Breen were sailors, you might wish to take a look at the three volume "Martime History of Co. Wexford",  by John Power. In particular, Vol. I, 1859-1910.
A quick glance shows references to Blakes and Breens in the 1860s.
Title: Re: Search for DAVIN, PHELAN & BREEN
Post by: Kazzacross on Monday 29 October 18 14:01 GMT (UK)
Thank you for this wexflyer, I can see I'm going to be busy lol