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Title: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: Lensmeister on Tuesday 30 October 18 14:41 GMT (UK)
Very interesting article

https://paulbigland.blog/2018/10/30/digging-up-graveyards-for-hs2-its-not-as-if-it-hasnt-been-done-before/
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: Caw1 on Wednesday 31 October 18 07:49 GMT (UK)
Thanks Lensmeister for this link.
Whilst I'm always keen to see archeological digs going on to unearth our early history HS2 is quite another matter!
I also enjoyed the links within the link, if that makes sense, especially reading about Kensal Green where my 2x gt grandmother is buried, yet to be visited.
 When I first discovered her burial I was most intrigued to find the person listed directly after her was Rev Baden Powell, the father of the Scout movement founder.
I did wonder how my 2x gt grandmother was buried in such a prestigious cemetery when, from what I've gathered so far, she appears to be just an ordinary soul of little note!
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: Lensmeister on Wednesday 31 October 18 07:56 GMT (UK)
Yep it's a good read.

I have recently found on of my Hugkulstones maybe buried in Brompton !!!  :o

I thought others might like the read too.

I have commented that Brookwood wasn't one of the Magnificent Seven.
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: ankerdine on Monday 05 October 20 08:08 BST (UK)
Good morning.
Just not sure if this is the right thread or not.
Has anyone been watching The Big Dig with Alice Roberts? We are finding it fascinating TV.
I'd be interested to hear other viewers in-put.

Judy
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Monday 05 October 20 15:09 BST (UK)
I've been watching it, and several similar programmes, but last evening I got round to watching the "Bone Detectives" I'd recorded - you know, where a blonde female mortuary technician nods madly as the experts all explain everything to each other - and decided not to set any more of those to record!
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: JenB on Monday 05 October 20 15:16 BST (UK)
last evening I got round to watching the "Bone Detectives" I'd recorded - you know, where a blonde female mortuary technician nods madly as the experts all explain everything to each other - and decided not to set any more of those to record!

We did exactly the same, in fact we also stopped watching about 20 minutes in, it was so appalling.

By contrast 'Britain's Biggest Dig' was fascinating.
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Monday 05 October 20 15:37 BST (UK)
So glad it wasn't just me! I became obsessed with the woman's nodding, OH by her tattoos!
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: Biggles50 on Monday 05 October 20 15:42 BST (UK)
Good morning.
Just not sure if this is the right thread or not.
Has anyone been watching The Big Dig with Alice Roberts? We are finding it fascinating TV.
I'd be interested to hear other viewers in-put.

Judy

We are watching the programmes.

Interesting, yet sad that the resting places are being disturbed for a dubious transport project.
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Monday 05 October 20 15:44 BST (UK)
The last three words very true! What a lot of money could be redirected if the project was to be abandoned ... but "they" will say they've gone too far along the road to pull back now, of course.
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: Rena on Monday 05 October 20 16:15 BST (UK)
Good morning.
Just not sure if this is the right thread or not.
Has anyone been watching The Big Dig with Alice Roberts? We are finding it fascinating TV.
I'd be interested to hear other viewers in-put.

Judy

We are watching the programmes.

Interesting, yet sad that the resting places are being disturbed for a dubious transport project.

I usually enjoy archeology programmes, but not the big dig: probably because I believe the bones are to be re-buried in a different county.
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: JenB on Monday 05 October 20 17:30 BST (UK)
Very interesting article

https://paulbigland.blog/2018/10/30/digging-up-graveyards-for-hs2-its-not-as-if-it-hasnt-been-done-before/

Fascinating link, thank you.

In the mid 1960s there were plans for a dual carriageway to connect the Coast Road from Tynemouth with the Central Motorway East along a widened Jesmond Road, encroaching on part of the cemetery. In 1967 the private company was wound up and returned to the City Council. About 600 graves (nearly 1,100 burials) some more than 100 years old, would need to be exhumed and reinterred, and John Dobson’s magnificent entrance gateway and chapels would have to be moved.

Notices were issued and the attempts made to contact the relatives of the burials involved. Relatives were given the option to carry out removals to any other cemetery, or to allow a transfer to another part of the cemetery. The Council undertook to re-erect all monuments and tombstones unless in a ruinous condition. Years later the number of unclaimed graves was ‘considerable’, and of those families successfully contacted only two opted for private removal. Only one was ‘not keen to have remains disturbed’. The rest of the tombs had to be moved without consent.

The estimated cost of re-siting the gateway and chapels amounted to £100,000. Because the buildings were of exceptional architectural and historical importance the Environment Minister offered a 75 per cent grant to re-site them. In 1971 work began on the removal of the graves, ‘with the utmost reverence’ by the London Necropolis Company. Public access was not allowed. All soil was sifted for remains which were then re-coffined and reburied. The work on the Jesmond Road border took several months. At a later date more exhumations took place on the Sandyford Road and in the South West area. Eventually the whole bypass scheme collapsed because of legal difficulties and when the project was resurrected nearly 30 years later the ‘dualling’ of Jesmond Road and the widening of Sandyford Road never took place.


https://www.geni.com/projects/Jesmond-Old-Cemetery-Burials/29648
Title: Re: HS2 and Cemeteries
Post by: Top-of-the-hill on Monday 05 October 20 19:21 BST (UK)
  "Central Motorway East" I guess that is the road my mother used to complain about that was driven through the centre of Newcastle? Was it originally going to carry the A1?