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Title: Archibald Dawson
Post by: s58roads on Tuesday 30 October 18 15:59 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any World War 1 service records for Archibald Dawson and his brother George Dawson.
Archibald was born on 7 Dec. 1883 at Muiravonside, Stirling. Scotland and he died on 9 June 1947 at St. Paul. Dakota. Minnesota. USA
I have less details for George, born abt. 1885 again at Muiravonside. died possibly 1960s Pennsylvania. USA
Their parents were George Dawson and Janet Waddell
Many thanks.
Geoff
Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: Genealiza on Tuesday 30 October 18 17:29 GMT (UK)
If you look on www.familysearch.org, you will find some information on your brothers.  Looks like George Rose Dawson was born 22 Jul 1887, Aberdeen, Scotland, according to his WWI draft registration card.  Also, the draft cards were mandatory, but service in the military did not necessarily follow.  Looks like he was in St. Paul, Ramsey, Minnesota for the draft registration card.  (I just looked at the 1920 census and it states DAKOTA co., but apparently that has since been changed to RAMSEY.) The 1920 census also states that he immigrated in 1917 and was a soldier by 1918, although there is a border crossing of George Rose Dawson in 1910.  The 1930 census shows him with wife, Davina, and family in Detroit, Michigan. There is a Texas WWI entry on familysearch, but it doesn't appear to be showing up, at the moment.
[this appears to be the wrong George Dawson:  marriage in Canada to Davina Drybrough states his parents as Duncan Dawson and Jeanette Dunbar]

Archibald shows up on the Draft Registration Card in Fond du Lac County, Wiscconsin.  He states his nearest relative as Archie Reid of Janesville, Wisconsin.  His WWII draft registration card has him married to Christina and living in  St. Paul.  He states he was born 7 Dec 1882 in Aberdeen.
Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: RJ137 on Tuesday 30 October 18 17:39 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any World War 1 service records for Archibald Dawson


It doesn't appear Archibald served in the military in WWI.

Here is his WWI draft registration card. All males of a certain age were required to register, but that doesn't mean they actually served.

WWI Draft Card: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8QP-7NV

In the 1930 census there is a  question asking if you were a veteran of US military or naval forces and what war. He answered NO.

See columns 30 &31 on census.

1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X38Y-6MG
Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 30 October 18 18:23 GMT (UK)
1940 census  - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS2K-BMD

Not what you asked for but a small snippet you may or may not have regarding the son of Archibald and Christine Dawson -   Son Alexander Fletcher Dawson - obituary/death notice was in the Star tribune (Minneapolis Minnesota - 5 October 1982 )

Alex F Dawson aged 69 years, of St Marcos CA, formerly of the twin cities area, accidentally on Saturday. Survived by his wife Marian R...............etc etc names daughter & son-in-law, son and daughter-in-law and grandchildren.................etc......

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/564135

Death notice for Marian R Dawson in the Star Tribune (Minneapolis Minnesota - 23 January 1996 - page 18)

Marian R Dawson aged 88 years of Buffalo, survived by son, daughter, grand-children........(named) Service Paterson Chapel (Buffalo) 

Marian R 9 December 1907 passed away 22 January 1996 -

burial -     Fort Snelling National Cemetery Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota.
Plot W, 0, 1541

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/564450

Sandra



 
Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: RJ137 on Tuesday 30 October 18 18:55 GMT (UK)


1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X38Y-6MG

In case you don't have it, here is the obit for Archibald's son Alex listed on the 1930 census.

Star Tribune
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Tuesday, October 05, 1982 - Page 44

Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/24972338/alex_dawson_death/
Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:11 GMT (UK)
Daughter Elizabeth of Archibald and Christine.............

FIND A GRAVE

Elizabeth M Dawson McNary - 1907 - 1977

Sunset Memorial Park Cemetery Minneapolis, Hennepin County, Minnesota.
Plot   Block 6

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102328263

husband - William C McNary - 1903 - 1955

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102328275/william-c-mcnary

son - Richard William “Dick” McNary (with obituary and photograph attached)

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/42555670/richard-william-mcnary

Sandra

Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: RJ137 on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:18 GMT (UK)

I have less details for George, born abt. 1885 again at Muiravonside. died possibly 1960s Pennsylvania. USA
Their parents were George Dawson and Janet Waddell


This may be the George Dawson being referred too who died in Pennsylvania in the 1960's. Father's name is George, born in Scotland, DOB 1885.

DC: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mxo/

The DC states his usual place of residence was Camden County, New Jersey. This appears to be him in the following records. Censuses state he immigrated in 1910, but it appears he lived in Canada for a short bit.

His wife's name was Susan Ogg according to daughters birth record. This appears to her immigrating to Canada in 1907. I assume her and George married there, had son George W there and then immigrated to Massachusetts.

Susan Ogg Passenger list: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2H2F-K6S

The 1938 passenger list (below) states George was naturalized 25 Mar 1918 in Bristol Co., Massachusetts. Perhaps those papers (record) would give more to detail and if he is the right George Dawson.


1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MNMT-2X8

1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4DM-Z5J

Here is George with the 3 children from the censuses on a passenger list in 1938. I don't see wife Susan (nee:Ogg) listed. Did she die?

Passenger list: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:242N-NPM

George apears to be married to a Dorothy in 1940.

1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K45D-YBS

Daughters Glady & Eleanor 1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K456-9CR

Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:35 GMT (UK)
Susan Ogg marriage

Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection) - Susan Ogg - Anglican Saint Thomas - Montreal Quebec to George Dawson in 1907.
George Dawson was a bachelor of Aberdeen Scotland and Susan Philip Ogg spinster - 20 September 1907.


Sandra

Partial copy.............



Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:47 GMT (UK)
Susan Ogg was the daughter of William Ogg and Wilhelmina Scott.

Susan Ogg passed away 2 November 1937 -   Hahnemann Hospital Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Residence was listed as 1016 Belmpont Avenue. Collingwood New Jersey. Informant George Dawson.
Cause of death pulmonary embolism. Burial Collingwood Camden New Jersey.

Sandra

The Philaldelephia Enquirer - (Philadelphia Pennsylvania) 3 November 1937 -
Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:54 GMT (UK)
Children of Susan Ogg and George Dawson.


SSDI record for George William Dawson - 8 August 1908 - 30 April 2001
Last Residence Cherry Hill, 08002, Camden, New Jersey.

FIND A GRAVE - George William Dawson - with obituary attached - Courier-Post, 1 May  2001

   
Holy Trinity Episcopal Church Memorial Garden Collingswood, Camden County, New Jersey.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93066952

spouse - Beatrice Lowman Dawson - 1910 - 3 February 2001 (with obituary attached -Courier-Post, 5 February 2001  )

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93064686/beatrice-dawson

SSDI -record for Gladys Dawson/Fillman - 12 June 1915 - 4 January 1990
Last Residence Boynton Beach 33426, Palm Beach, Florida.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV5Q-7GFW

Also on Florida Death Index -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VV4Y-WH3

SSDI record for Eleanor Dawson/Gorman - 8 December 1916 - 24 June 2011
Last Residence Atco 08004, Camden, New Jersey.

FIND A GRAVE  Eleanor Gorman - Obituary attached Courier-Post, 28 June 2011

Holy Trinity Episcopal Church Memorial Garden -

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/113127393

husband - William R. Gorman - 1903 - 1981

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/88344661/william-r.-gorman

Sandra

6 Jan 1990 - The Palm Beach Post ( West Palm Beach Florida)

Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: RJ137 on Tuesday 30 October 18 20:24 GMT (UK)
In case you don't have it, here is the obit for Archibald's daughter Elizabeth who died 31 Dec. 1977.


The Minneapolis Star
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Tuesday, January 03, 1978 - Page 36

Obit: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/24975112/elizabeth_mcnary_obit/

In her obit it mentions an uncle Alex Dawson  of Green Bay, WI.

Could this be him?

He is heading to his brother in  Fond du Lac, Wisconsin

Brother Archie in 1910 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPKV-5JZ

Line: 12-Images 70 & 71

Passenger list 1911: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJK7-92X


Petitions for naturalization 1918 (images 65-67): http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mxq/

1920 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFL3-6X8

1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X93L-28X

1940 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K7N6-JH4

WWII: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X5QX-HJ7

SSDI: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JL9Q-Y4W
Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: s58roads on Wednesday 31 October 18 16:12 GMT (UK)
Now back on the case!
Many thanks for all these useful contributions.
I can now confirm that both Archibald and George were born in Muiravonside, Stirling. Scotland
Archibald born 7 Dec 1883 and George born 5 April 1885 to parents George Dawson and Janet Waddell.
George Rose Dawson born Aberdeen a different George Dawson to mine.
However, lets press on with the quest!
Geoff
Title: Re: Archibald Dawson
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 07 November 18 10:13 GMT (UK)


The OP started another thread looking for evidence of service in the Great War for Archibald Waddell Dawson  but gave a different birth date (18 July 1883) and same parents which seems rather strange, unless of course this one was not the correct one.  ???

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=803160.0

Sandra