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Title: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: Huytonbad on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:28 GMT (UK)
I’m looking to find out more about my family tree and also get a copy of my Grandad’s birth certificate or baptismal record. My Grandads name was Patrick Joseph Monaghan, born around 1895, Great Grandad was Patrick Monaghan and Great Grandma was Mary Anne Butler. I know from the 1911 census my Great Grandad and Nan lived in number 25 James Street in Westport, County Mayo when my Grandad was 15 but were in listed in two separate houses (number 35 and number 29} in James Street in 1901. I can’t find any records of my Grandads birth but I can see his eldest sister Margaret Mary Monaghan was born on 05th June 1893 and this was also recorded living in James Street and district Westport. Sort of hit a brick wall so wondering if anyone can help?
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:42 GMT (UK)
Can you post the Census links for them?
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:47 GMT (UK)
Is this them?  Born Ireland apart from wife born Westport??

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Westport__Urban/James_Street/749436/


Where do they say they were born on 1901 Census??


Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: Huytonbad on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks, sure:

1901 number 29 and 35

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Westport_Urban/James_s_Street/1607872/

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Mayo/Westport_Urban/James_s_Street/1607878/

1911 number 25

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Westport__Urban/James_Street/749436/

Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: Huytonbad on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:53 GMT (UK)
Is this them?  Born Ireland apart from wife born Westport??

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Mayo/Westport__Urban/James_Street/749436/


Where do they say they were born on 1901 Census??

Hi yes, same ones posted at the same time above sorry
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 30 October 18 19:56 GMT (UK)
1892 marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10592/5858737.pdf

1893 Margaret Mary
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02290/1859306.pdf

1895 Mary Ann
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02213/1835419.pdf

1899 John James
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02037/1780457.pdf

1901 Peter Eugene
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01940/1750261.pdf

It looks as though Patrick was born 1896/7  :-\
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: Huytonbad on Tuesday 30 October 18 20:05 GMT (UK)
1892 marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10592/5858737.pdf

1893 Margaret Mary
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02290/1859306.pdf

1895 Mary Ann
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02213/1835419.pdf

1899 John James
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02037/1780457.pdf

1901 Peter Eugene
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01940/1750261.pdf

It looks as though Patrick was born 1896/7  :-\

Poor Mary Ann must have died sadly? Wow really good searching skills there thanks for that but can you see anything for my Grandad Patrick at all?
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 30 October 18 20:15 GMT (UK)
You can research them on https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

Just fill in as needed


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Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 30 October 18 20:17 GMT (UK)
You also have https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1043  Aughaval  for pre 1864 records
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 30 October 18 20:21 GMT (UK)
I can’t see a birth for Patrick nor a death for Mary Ann.

If you can’t see a birth, perhaps you could contact the church for a baptism check.
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: Huytonbad on Tuesday 30 October 18 20:25 GMT (UK)
I can’t see a birth for Patrick nor a death for Mary Ann.

If you can’t see a birth, perhaps you could contact the church for a baptism check.

Thank you, yes have tried myself and a few others but nothing found or returned for my Grandad Patrick Monaghan at all anywhere which is a bit frustrating. I’m not sure if his birth was registered for some reason to be honest but can’t find any baptismal records online either but maybe as you say if I contact the Church direct they move have some record. Can only find one Catholic Church St Mary’s at Westport?
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 30 October 18 20:31 GMT (UK)
Online baptisms only go to 1880 - Hallmark gave you a link so yes, St Mary’s would likely be the right Church.
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: Huytonbad on Tuesday 30 October 18 20:40 GMT (UK)
Online baptisms only go to 1880 - Hallmark gave you a link so yes, St Mary’s would likely be the right Church.

Thanks both, I’ll give them a bell tomorrow and let you know how I get on
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: Huytonbad on Saturday 14 August 21 14:24 BST (UK)
Just a quick update to say after about 2 years of trying I finally got the Baptism certificate for my Grandad from St Mary’s. Made up and just in the process now of registering as a late birth to get the long form birth certificate and hopefully get that sorted a bit quicker. Thanks for the help, defo appreciated.
Title: Re: Patrick Joseph Monaghan and family, James Street, Westport, Mayo
Post by: heywood on Saturday 14 August 21 14:40 BST (UK)
Thank you for the update. Glad to hear your news.  :)