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Title: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Thursday 01 November 18 09:45 GMT (UK)
My friend has a Nokia phone which isn't connected to the web. She can however send messages to my iPhone and receive them from me.

She was recently on a mini break and we both sent each other a message but neither was received.

Sorry if this is a silly question but does that mean she has to be within a certain distance of her router before she can use Whatsapp, even though her phone is not connected to it?

Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: groom on Thursday 01 November 18 09:53 GMT (UK)
As I understand it, you can only receive WhatsApp messages if you are connected to WiFi, either through your router or via data on your phone. WhatsApp uses your phone’s internet connection. So I guess your friend’s phone is set to WiFi and so picks up the signal when she’s at home. Perhaps what she means is that she doesn’t have a data package? Ask her to check settings to see if she is connected.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 01 November 18 09:56 GMT (UK)
She isn't connected to the Web, so what difference does it make if she is 100 or 3000 miles from her router?
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: groom on Thursday 01 November 18 09:57 GMT (UK)
She isn't connected to the Web, so what difference does it make if she is 100 or 3000 miles from her router?

I think she must be connected at home even though she doesn’t realise it, otherwise she couldn’t use WhatsApp.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 01 November 18 10:15 GMT (UK)
She isn't connected to the Web, so what difference does it make if she is 100 or 3000 miles from her router?

I think she must be connected at home even though she doesn’t realise it, otherwise she couldn’t use WhatsApp.


I think so.....but must be careful of hidden charges! 
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Thursday 01 November 18 10:45 GMT (UK)
She’s adamant she isn’t connected to the web on her phone.

She has been home for a week now but neither message has come through. I know my message was sent.

It’s a puzzle.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: groom on Thursday 01 November 18 11:02 GMT (UK)
She’s adamant she isn’t connected to the web on her phone.

"WhatsApp Messenger is a FREE messaging app available for Android and other smartphones. WhatsApp uses your phone's Internet connection (4G/3G/2G/EDGE or Wi-Fi, as available) to let you message and call friends and family."

She must be connected otherwise she couldn't use WhatsApp. Did she set up her own phone or did someone else do it for her?
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 01 November 18 11:08 GMT (UK)
Obviously she won't get her web based messages until she is on the Web!
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: medpat on Thursday 01 November 18 11:12 GMT (UK)
Is it possible that she was using Wifi from an unsecured source from a near neighbour which has now become secure.

You need Wifi to use Whatsapp so she was getting it from somewhere. 
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Gadget on Thursday 01 November 18 11:13 GMT (UK)
What colour ticks are showing against the messages - grey or blue - and how many?

http://home.bt.com/tech-gadgets/internet/social-media/whatsapp-messages-explained-ticks-message-delivery-read-receipts-11364178107998
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Thursday 01 November 18 11:32 GMT (UK)
Gadget, one grey tick at the end of my message. I don’t know about hers.

Groom, I don’t know who set it up for her but suspect grandson.

What is puzzling me is she uses her iPad a lot so if the phone is automatically connecting to the web, why have our messages not been sent/received?

I will get her to check her Settings as I think she needs to know if she is connected.

Many thanks for your comments.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 01 November 18 11:40 GMT (UK)
Is the phone  automatically connecting to the web   ??
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 01 November 18 11:43 GMT (UK)
Is Wifi turned On or Off on phone?

Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: groom on Thursday 01 November 18 12:06 GMT (UK)
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Groom, I don’t know who set it up for her but suspect grandson.

I think that's your answer! My sister's grandson set up her phone and connected her to all sorts of things he uses but she doesn't need.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Thursday 01 November 18 12:15 GMT (UK)
I will take this up with her.

I liked sending her WhatsApp messages as I could see if she’d read them if it was something important; don’t have that on email or text.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Thursday 01 November 18 18:51 GMT (UK)
I emailed my friend, suggesting she check the Settings on her phone. She has replied, via WhatsApp, saying that things are now sorted at her end. She didn't comment on what was wrong or who has sorted it out for her.

She has also received my messages.

Many thanks to all who replied to my post, I appreciate your interest.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: groom on Thursday 01 November 18 20:49 GMT (UK)
Pity she didn't say whether she was actually connected to the Wifi without realising it.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Thursday 01 November 18 21:54 GMT (UK)
I will find out all about it when I see her next week and let you know.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: hallmark on Thursday 01 November 18 22:14 GMT (UK)
Just WhatsApp her and ask!!   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Friday 02 November 18 07:23 GMT (UK)
I don’t want to put her back up, and there’s no rush.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: hallmark on Friday 02 November 18 11:23 GMT (UK)
Was joking!!
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: groom on Friday 02 November 18 11:41 GMT (UK)
I don’t want to put her back up, and there’s no rush.

Especially if she has discovered that she was connected to the internet after all.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Friday 02 November 18 11:44 GMT (UK)
Sorry hallmark, I should have realised.  :o

Yes groom, I didn’t want to make her feel silly.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: jc26red on Friday 02 November 18 19:04 GMT (UK)
Probably what happened is... she went away, tried to connect to the internet while away (settings, selecting a different network and password) and somehow clicked on forget/delete network on her home network, hence her phone didn’t automatically connect her when she got home.

First thing to try if you cannot connect to your network. > settings > WiFi > check network. Or find network, select the one you are looking for and enter the password.  You will know you are connected if the WiFi icon is on the top of your screen.

If you don’t do this often or someone else has set it up for you it’s easy to forget  or not know how to check the settings
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Friday 09 November 18 14:34 GMT (UK)
I've now seen my friend and she tells me while they were on their mini break a family member transferred data from their phone to hers.

The unused data was taken back at the end of their break. For some reason her phone didn't reconnect to the web once she was home, which she hadn't noticed until I emailed her asking why she hadn't read my WhatsApp messages.

All sorted now.

Many thanks to all who commented on my post.
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: groom on Friday 09 November 18 14:54 GMT (UK)
For some reason her phone didn't reconnect to the web once she was home, which she hadn't noticed until I emailed her asking why she hadn't read my WhatsApp messages.



So in spite of the fact she was adamant she wasn't connected to the internet at home to use WhatsApp, she must have been.  ;D
Title: Re: WhatsApp and Nokia phone
Post by: Retriever on Friday 09 November 18 15:21 GMT (UK)
If she didn’t know before, she certainly does now  ;D

I now know not to bother with WhatsApp if she isn’t at home. Lessons learned on both sides.