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Title: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: nkc9 on Friday 02 November 18 10:03 GMT (UK)
Robert Prideaux married Elizabeth Rafferty (daughter of James Rafferty and Bridget McCabe).
Elizabeth was born 1861 (probably Co Fermanagh) and died on the 4th November 1953 in Clones, Co Monaghan.
I have been unable to find a marriage for Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth, a birth for either or a death for Robert.
The only fact I know is that Robert had died before 1953.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Phil
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: hallmark on Friday 02 November 18 10:15 GMT (UK)
Only 4 PRIDEAUX registered on Civil Reg

Marriage results for Prideaux

 Marriage of JOHN NEWMAN and CELIA PRIDEAUX
on 07 September 1889
Group Registration ID   2514508
SR District/Reg Area   Cork

Marriage of THOMAS MCCLELLAND and MARY PRIDEAUX
on 26 April 1886
Group Registration ID   2372534
SR District/Reg Area   Cork

Marriage of PHILIP PRIDEAUX and ELIZA RICHARDSON
on 31 March 1909
Group Registration ID   1877930
SR District/Reg Area   Belfast

Marriage of WALTER PRIDEAUX and GEORGINA FLEMYNG
on 29 April 1874
Group Registration ID   2831654
SR District/Reg Area   Dublin South
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: hallmark on Friday 02 November 18 10:22 GMT (UK)
Name     Elizabeth PRIDEAUX
Year of Death   1953
Group Registration ID   2643289
SR District/Reg Area   Clones
Deceased Age at Death   92


https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1953/04459/4167643.pdf
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: hallmark on Friday 02 November 18 10:24 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth was born 1861 (probably Co Fermanagh) and died on the 4th November 1953 in Clones, Co Monaghan.


You probably had that Cert but didn't say!

Much easier if you post things so people can look at them and see details!
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: nkc9 on Friday 02 November 18 10:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your help Hallmark.
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: hallmark on Friday 02 November 18 10:36 GMT (UK)
Clonmackin, Newtownbutler  is this where they lived??

Or have you look for where the Townland on Cert is??
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: nkc9 on Friday 02 November 18 10:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Hallmark - the Rafferty family were in Clonmackin. We cannot find Robert and Elizabeth in any census. The only reference is the fact she bought a headstone for her parents in Sacred Heart Cemetery and that she died in Clones (on the certificate).
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: hallmark on Friday 02 November 18 11:14 GMT (UK)
I'm wondering if they lived over the border!
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: nkc9 on Friday 02 November 18 16:42 GMT (UK)
We wondered that too but not sure how to find that out.
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 02 November 18 16:45 GMT (UK)
Could Robert have been in military or worked abroad for some reason?
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: nkc9 on Friday 02 November 18 18:39 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your reply Maiden Stone - how would we find out about that in Ireland please?
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Friday 02 November 18 20:33 GMT (UK)
There’s about 7 Robert Prideaux deaths registered in England in the period 1916 to 1953. Have you looked at those? Could he have died there? There was a Robert who died in Falmouth on 4.5.1949, born c 1882. It made me wonder whether there was a connection to George Prideaux in the Coastguard service whose family are nearby to Clones, in the Irish statutory records. Could Robert also have been in that line of business, which might take him to places like Falmouth? His widow may have returned to live with her family in Ireland after his death. Just speculation but a thought. The 1949 Robert left a will, so that could tell you a bit about him.

 
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: nkc9 on Saturday 03 November 18 09:03 GMT (UK)
Thank you for your input Elwyn - will look at your thoughts and see if there could be a connection between George and Robert.
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: dathai on Saturday 03 November 18 10:40 GMT (UK)
There's a Robert Prideaux born Sunderland circa 1866 on this ship manifest 3rd from top page 2, though i wonder how they transcribed that
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/cl/details.jsp?id=IRE/CREWLISTS/00269852
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: nkc9 on Saturday 03 November 18 14:52 GMT (UK)
Many thanks dathai
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: dathai on Monday 05 November 18 12:45 GMT (UK)
have you tried the 1939 register
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mz2/
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: nkc9 on Monday 05 November 18 17:54 GMT (UK)
Thank you - yes have tried this but no luck.
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: Maiden Stone on Monday 05 November 18 20:49 GMT (UK)
Several Robert Prideaux births in 1850s-1860s and marriages in England. Seems to have been a fair few in Cornwall and elsewhere in SW England. Plenty of opportunities for coastguards there.
Title: Re: Robert Prideaux and Elizabeth Rafferty
Post by: nkc9 on Tuesday 06 November 18 09:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks Maiden Stone - have checked through them but no luck.