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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Flintshire => Topic started by: katyH2811 on Friday 02 November 18 11:40 GMT (UK)
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Hi there!
Over the past few years I’ve been trying my hardest to find out more information on my grandfather’s great-grandfather, William Peters Hayes.
I’ve traced him as William Hayes back to the 1841 census as a 6-year-old, living in the same area as an Ann Peters. In the 1851 census, he’s living with Ann and her adult son Edward Peters, a butcher, and William is working as a butchers apprentice (assumedly to Edward Peters). There is also an Elizabeth Hayes, aged 11, living with them and working as a servant. Family stories indicate that William had one sister, and that he was a butcher before coming to Australia as a young man, so this would fit.
Try as I might, I haven’t been able to locate a solid birth record for either William or Elizabeth. There was one William Hayes born in the area at the right time, but I was able to see that his parents went on to have many more children, and that that William hayes was living with them in the 1841 census.
I’m now wondering if it would be possible that William’s birth surname was Peters, but his mother married a Hayes and he was given that surname too. Is that a likely scenario, or am I clutching at straws?
Would appreciate any guidance or advice that anyone could offer me.
Thank you in advance! X
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For anyone trying to help
1851 - HO107/2501 f534 p11 - Wrexham Street, Mold
Ann Peters - Widow age 64 - Lodging House Keeper
Edward Peters Son age 30 - Butcher
William Hayes Butchers Apprentice - age16
Elizabeth Hayes -age 11 House servant
All born Mold
Same address in 1841 - ref HO107 /1410 bk12 f35 p7
Ann Peters and Edward are in same house but different 'household' to William Hayes.
Occupants of other household are
Thomas Jones age 40
Thomas Morris 25 Not bn in County
Elizabeth Morris 25.
William Hayes 6 Not born in County
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Possible Edward Peters baptism? (FindMyPast)
Edward Peters, 13 Dec 1818, abode Mold, parents William and Ann, father's occpn. publican.
Re. the 1851 Census does Ann Peter's age (64) rule her out as a probable mother for Elizabeth (11) and William (16)?
The General Register Office (GRO) has the birth registration of -
Elizabeth Hayes, June Qtr 1842, reg dist. Holywell, vol 27 volume 255 - mother's maiden name Ellis
Mold falls within the Hollywell registration district.
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Baptism FindMyPast
Elizabeth Hayes, 14 May 1842, abode Bistree?, parents Seth and Elizabeth, father's occpn Labourer.
NOTE - every time I get a "hit" on FindMyPast it's telling me I've viewed that record before!!
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NOTE - every time I get a "hit" on FindMyPast it's telling me I've viewed that record before!!
Probably because you looked at them when researching this post
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=768741.
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Thanks -it was as I suspected but hadn't gone searching for the other thread.
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Think that possibly married Elizabeth Morris maybe the mother of William Hayes as in the household in 1841 and the couple are next door in 1851, with two Morris children
There is a bapt for Elizabeth Peters dau of William & Ann 1816 on FreeReg
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5b1bec6bf493fde7379574c7?search_id=5bdc56bef4040b689cf352bc&ucf=false
Possibly she married a Hayes then a Morris?
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Think that possibly married Elizabeth Morris maybe the mother of William Hayes as in the household in 1841 and the couple are next door in 1851, with two Morris children
In 1851 she has two children Jane & John.
RG09 / 4274 f46 p5
Their possible birth registrations give mmn Williams
MORRIS, JANE mmn WILLIAMS
1845 Sept Quarter in HOLYWELL Volume 27 Page 237