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Title: What is Clavering?
Post by: a chesters on Tuesday 06 November 18 04:48 GMT (UK)
What is Clavering?

I have a copy  of:  The poll for the County of Durham, Chester Ward, 1761.

Across the top is the information about the number on the poll, name, abode etc.

The number on the poll is divided into three sections, Vane, Clavering, and Shafto(sic)

Could someone please advise what is being referred to by Clavering.

I have looked at the free dictionary, but it does not give any meaning as to what it could refer to in a poll book.

A C

Title: Re: What is Clavering?
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 06 November 18 04:54 GMT (UK)
Is it the person they were voting for ??? http://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1754-1790/constituencies/durham-county

Kay
Title: Re: What is Clavering?
Post by: a chesters on Tuesday 06 November 18 05:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much for that Kay.

The problem, to me, is that the person concerned is the freeholder, he is not the occupier of the property.
Name:    Samuel Jopling
Abode: Field House
Freehold: Hamsterley
On what Condition: Tythes
Occupier: Jof English and others

The poll book indicates that there is only a single vote.

Would I be correct in assuming that the vote was by the freeholder, and not the occupier.

Any assistance would be very gratefully received.

A C
Title: Re: What is Clavering?
Post by: majm on Tuesday 06 November 18 05:20 GMT (UK)
 :)

The honorable Sir Frederick VANE
Sir Thomas CLAVERING, Bart
Robert SHAFTO, Esq

JM
Title: Re: What is Clavering?
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 06 November 18 05:21 GMT (UK)
Yes, they are surnames: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mz8/

Jamjar

Title: Re: What is Clavering?
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 06 November 18 05:24 GMT (UK)
This might help re who could vote at the time https://www.halarose.co.uk/news/a-timeline-of-british-voting/
Title: Re: What is Clavering?
Post by: majm on Tuesday 06 November 18 05:28 GMT (UK)
 :)  :)

They were voting for the Knights of the Shire for the County of Durham  :)  the poll was conducted 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th April 1761 at the City of Durham, before the High Sheriff


JM
Title: Re: What is Clavering?
Post by: a chesters on Tuesday 06 November 18 05:52 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your help.

I was not aware of the process involved, or what the meanings were. Hopefully I will be able to remember for the next roll I encounter, as it was the first from that era that I had found for one of my ancestors.

Again, many thanks to all of you.

AC
Title: Re: What is Clavering?
Post by: a chesters on Wednesday 07 November 18 04:02 GMT (UK)
Having followed through on the information you have all so generously given, I am now wondering how a person with a field house which is occupied by presumably a renter, can vote as the freehold is consisting of  "tythes".

I would have though, in my ignorance, that by paying tythes, he would not be the owner of the freehold.

I am willing to be told otherwise, as I have no knowledge of the system of the time.

Any help will be very gratefully received.

AC
Title: Re: What is Clavering?
Post by: majm on Wednesday 07 November 18 04:13 GMT (UK)
 :D  :D

http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/article/10970/Tithe-Plans-and-Apportionments 

http://www.durhamrecordoffice.org.uk/media/16774/Tithe-Plans-and-Apportionments/pdf/SubjectGuide05Tithe.pdf

JM