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Title: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Hopiee225 on Tuesday 06 November 18 22:55 GMT (UK)
I just need a little help reading the parents name on this certificate (Daniel Fisher and Catherine Edwards)
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Gadget on Tuesday 06 November 18 23:01 GMT (UK)
I think it reads:

Daniel Fisher
Laabourer (deceased)

Catherine Fisher
MS Drummond

David Edwards
Mill ?? (deceased)  ?add - overseer

Margaret (Stewart or Stuart) since married
to George Smith, Shoemaker

Gadget
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: hallmark on Tuesday 06 November 18 23:04 GMT (UK)
Mill Overseer
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Hopiee225 on Tuesday 06 November 18 23:06 GMT (UK)
I think it reads:

Daniel Fisher
Laabourer (deceased)

Catherine Fisher
MS Drummond

David Edwards
Mill ?? (deceased)  ?add - overseer

Margaret (Stewart or Stuart) since married
to George Smith, Shoemaker

Gadget

Thank you, i thought that what i read, must be the reason why they also called there son daniel.  :)
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 06 November 18 23:19 GMT (UK)
His folks?

FISHER Daniel Catherine DRUMMOND/ 15-1-1854 386/A 30 356 Muthill

A sibling:

FISHER Peter DANIEL FISHER/CATHERINE DRUMMOND 10-4-1854 386/A 30 200 Muthill

Worth hanging on to:

FISHER Peter DONALD FISHER/BETTY MCINNES FR461 (FR461) 1-10-1786 386/A 20 111 Muthill

Jamjar
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Jamjar on Tuesday 06 November 18 23:30 GMT (UK)
If this is the family in 1861, Daniel Jnr is 3, rather than 1:

386/A 11/ 12 Muthill Perth

Daniel 32
Catherine 24
Peter 6 FISHER Peter 1954 386/A 30 200 Muthill
Ann 5  FISHER Ann 1855 386/ 66 Muthill
Daniel 3  FISHER Daniel 1857 386/ 67 Muthill
William 1 FISHER William  1859 386/ 89 Muthill

The 1871 328/B 2/ 1 Ardoch Perth, same except for no Ann and addition of:

John 5 FISHER John 1866 386/A 12 Muthill

1881 328/B 2/ 1 Ardoch Perth, addition of James 7 and a Daniel 2, no father.

On the 1891 328/B 2/ 9 Ardoch Perth, both Danielís are shown as Donald. Iím thinking that the 2 year old on the 1881 is Donald and the Donald on the 1891 is your Daniel at age 31.

Please note I am only seeing the indexes on SP and not the census pages.

If they followed the naming pattern, this could be the birth of Daniel Snr:

FISHER Daniel PETER FISHER/JEAN PHILP FR4283 (FR4283) 13-12-1829 644/1 320 629 Glasgow

His death:

FISHER Daniel 52 1881 328/B 4 Ardoch

Two possible births for Catherine:

DRUMMOND Catherine PETER DRUMMOND/ANN MCULLOCH FR732 (FR732) 13-9-1836 386/A 30 166 Muthill

DRUMMOND Catherine  JAMES DRUMMOND/JANET COMRIE 18-7-1836 386/A 30 102 Muthill

Her death:

FISHER Catherine 62 1899 328/B 5 Ardoch

Jamjar
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 07 November 18 02:04 GMT (UK)
I canít see a marriage between David Edwards and Margaret Stewart/Stuart.

I was wondering if this is Catherineís birth given that her marriage is listed as St Peter:

EDWARDS CATHERINE URQUH 1871 282/1 779 St Peter

Jamjar
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 08 November 18 00:30 GMT (UK)
I canít see a marriage between David Edwards and Margaret Stewart/Stuart.

JJ,

They would not have been married which is shown by...

"Margaret Stewart since married to George Smith"

The absence of 'MS' tells us her 'maiden' surname is/was Stewart.

Possible marriage?

SMITH GEORGE
STEWART MARGARET
1875
573/ 112 Paisley Burgh (Renfrew)


Annie
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 08 November 18 00:49 GMT (UK)
Where does Catherine state her PoB in 1901 & 1911?

Annie
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 08 November 18 01:03 GMT (UK)
That makes sense Annie.

Connected post: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=803239.new#new

Jamjar
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 08 November 18 01:13 GMT (UK)
JJ,

Just noticed the other post but thanks!  ::)

Annie
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 08 November 18 01:16 GMT (UK)
I was wondering if this is Catherineís birth given that her marriage is listed as St Peter:

EDWARDS CATHERINE URQUH 1871 282/1 779 St Peter

JJ,

I'm not convinced on this, reason being the lack of a middle name/initial on marriage?

Annie
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 08 November 18 01:37 GMT (UK)
I was wondering if this is Catherineís birth given that her marriage is listed as St Peter:

EDWARDS CATHERINE URQUH 1871 282/1 779 St Peter

I'm not convinced on this, reason being the lack of a middle name/initial on marriage?

Hmm...JJ, looks like I may be eating my words  ;D...this is strange, very coincidental & fits but...

The surname Fisher is missing from this list;

Death (all same person)...

EDWARDS CATHERINE URQUH(art) 57 (b c1873)
1930
459/2 168 Buckhaven (Fife)

Other surnames matching Ref. No...

Smith
Stewart
Hunter

Downloadable on SP but why no married surname of Fisher, surely got to be the same Catherine?

Death should give parents names if known to the informant.

Annie
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Hopiee225 on Thursday 08 November 18 15:16 GMT (UK)
I was wondering if this is Catherineís birth given that her marriage is listed as St Peter:

EDWARDS CATHERINE URQUH 1871 282/1 779 St Peter

JJ,

I'm not convinced on this, reason being the lack of a middle name/initial on marriage?

Annie


Yeah that is her full name  :)
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Hopiee225 on Thursday 08 November 18 16:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks for you help everyone I had a family member help me as well and have found out that Catherine Drummond parents names are Peter Drummond married ann McCulloch and she had a sister called Margaret drummond
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 08 November 18 23:47 GMT (UK)
JJ, I'm eating my words now...thankfully though  ;)


Hopiee,

I'm curious as to what's written on her DC?

EDWARDS CATHERINE URQUH(art) 57 (b c1873)
1930
459/2 168 Buckhaven (Fife)

Who was the informant as it's strange her married surname isn't included?

Annie
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 08 November 18 23:57 GMT (UK)
2nd marriage?

EDWARDS CATHERINE
HUNTER FREDERICK JOHN
1900
282/1 131 St Peter

Looks as though 1st hubby died within 8 yrs of the marriage?

Annie
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 09 November 18 00:01 GMT (UK)
A child from 2nd marriage?

Death

HUNTER CATHERINE EDWAR 85
EDWARDS (mms)
1994
424/ 264 Buckhaven (Fife)

Annie
Title: Re: Daniel Fisher - Marriage
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 09 November 18 00:10 GMT (UK)
Catherine married Frederick John Hunter with all 4 surnames listed:

Edwards, Stewart, Smith & Fisher

Annie