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Title: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 07 November 18 11:26 GMT (UK)
hello
looking for some help please. trying to trace down an ancestor.

i have a thomas pritchard son of thomas and mary baptised jan 13th 1781 married 1804 oswestry
gadget previously helped me with this.

i am now trying to track down his father and need a bit if guidance please.

i have a possible marriage for him in march 1774 to mary evans.
have no evidence he was born in oswestry.

but have two possibles.and looking for some guidance i assume gone for a soldier means he joined the army ? any help appreciated
Name:   Thomas Prichard
Residence Place:   Oswestry, Shropshire, England
Gender:   Male
Christening Date:   02 May 1756
Christening Date (Original):   2 May 1756
Christening Place:   St. Oswald, Oswestry, Shropshire, England
Father's Name:   Thomas Prichard

1756] Oswestry. 227
1756, May 2. Thomas, s. of Thomas Prichard of Measbury, pauppor, gone for a soldier, b. ... bap.

thank you

 
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 07 November 18 11:44 GMT (UK)
Hi  :)

What is the source of the 1756 baptism? 


Gadget

Add - OK - found it!
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 07 November 18 11:47 GMT (UK)
I think they're both the same person/baptism. Only one showing in the Oswestry records.

Gadget
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 07 November 18 11:54 GMT (UK)
The register doesn't give the name of his mother. The entry just reads  .
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..pauper gone for a soldier by...

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b and bpt ye 2nd
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 07 November 18 12:08 GMT (UK)
oh thats o/k

have been on fin my past "just run out"

but have not been able to tie this ancestor down.

the source i found was http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/OswestryVol3.html

it does all tie in wonder if birth cerificate fron the national library of wales would help.

p.s hope your keeping well gadget

thank you,brian
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 07 November 18 12:34 GMT (UK)
There won't be a birth certificate. There were none until 1837. It will be a baptism record  from the parish records, which you have obviously seen on FindMyPast. 

It's the only one showing.


Gadget
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 07 November 18 12:41 GMT (UK)

the source i found was http://www.melocki.org.uk/salop/OswestryVol3.html



The booklets, which these are copies of, were extracted from the parish records.  FindMyPast has the images of the original record.

Have you looked for an earlier Thomas Pri(t)chard, who could be the father, or early military records?


Gadget
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 07 November 18 14:28 GMT (UK)
hi gadget no i thought the father of thomas was born in ruabon and didnt find this record until later.

thanks for the info have found a lot of miltary records of other family branches.
intending to subscribe to ancestry for them soon. do you think will also have the copy of the birth record.
thank you.brian
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 07 November 18 14:33 GMT (UK)
also could be the first son ?

" Nov. 29. David, s. of Thos. Prichard of Willow St., & Mary, b. 22nd ... bap.
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 07 November 18 14:56 GMT (UK)

. do you think will also have the copy of the birth record.
thank you.brian


FindMyPast has the full baptism record. I've looked at it and  you implied that you had seen it also.  There will not be a separate birth record - see my reply #5

Which year and where was  'Nov. 29. David, s. of Thos. Prichard of Willow St., & Mary, b. 22nd ... bap'

Gadget
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Wednesday 07 November 18 16:02 GMT (UK)
ni didnt see that but can nip in the museum in wrexham.they have find my past

1774 Nov. 29. David, s. of Thos. Prichard of Willow St., & Mary, b. 22nd ... bap.

regs.brian
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Wednesday 07 November 18 16:49 GMT (UK)
If the Thomas, who married Mary in March 1774, was the one bapt in May 1756, then wouldn't David be their son?

 
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Thursday 08 November 18 08:35 GMT (UK)
thank for your help gadget
regs,brian
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Friday 09 November 18 08:08 GMT (UK)
yes your correct with david being the son re marriage 1774.

of the thomas pritchard who went off to war in 1756 have been trawling through the oswesty parich records for a marriage.do you thing this will be possible to nail down without the mothers name on the birth ?
thanks.brian
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 November 18 08:21 GMT (UK)
I tried looking through the Oswestry records the other day.  It could be in the various parishes around Oswestry or, they might not have married.

You could check some of the nearby Shropshire, Montgomeryshire and Denbighshire parishes.
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Friday 09 November 18 10:16 GMT (UK)
i have plenty of possibles wonder if his army records would turn up his next of kin if he had one.
on family search found there is a thomas prichard 1753 hereford wife watkins- also henllan 1752 davies.-bedwelly 1755 thomas.-church stoke hereford 1756 weaver .llangurig 1752.-oswestry 1755 margaret jones.-and two others in saint julian and moel brace.

the two most likely i think are oswestry 1755 margaret.or llangurig 1752 just have a feeling on that one. as there is a william pritchard lodging with my father in oswestry 1881 being born to jacob in 1861.wonder if there is a link there.

sorry to moider !!!
thanks brian
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 November 18 11:33 GMT (UK)
No sign of the 1755 marriage in the online Oswestry parish records or melocki that I can see. They are listed in the misc. collection of English Parish records.  Maybe worth trying to look at the originals at Shropshire records office  :-\

Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 November 18 11:36 GMT (UK)
Interestingly there is an Edward Prichard of Maesbury having children around that time. Worth following up.
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Friday 09 November 18 11:41 GMT (UK)
o/k will try looking at them

thank you.brian
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Friday 09 November 18 12:01 GMT (UK)
p.s

Thomas Prichard
England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name:   Thomas Prichard
Spouse's Name:   Margaret Jones
Event Date:   03 Jun 1755
Event Place:   Oswestry,Shropshire,England
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: Gadget on Friday 09 November 18 12:41 GMT (UK)
p.s

Thomas Prichard
England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name:   Thomas Prichard
Spouse's Name:   Margaret Jones
Event Date:   03 Jun 1755
Event Place:   Oswestry,Shropshire,England

Yes it's only on that record set  not in the parish records or in melocki. 
I'm not sure of the source of the record set so suggest you check it at Shropshire Records Office.
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Friday 09 November 18 14:58 GMT (UK)
ok gadget thats the next then

thank you.brian
Title: Re: oswestry ancestors
Post by: pritchardgeo on Monday 12 November 18 17:27 GMT (UK)
found  this on the parish records
PETER MORRIS, Minister, JOHN EVANS, Wardens. JOHN JONES,

1755, May 12. John Foulks and Jane Roberts, both of Pentre Baer.
" May 19. Hugh Jones and Jane Morris, both of Llanvorda.
" May 19. William Ford of Cross Street, gent., and Mrs. Catherine Skye, spinster.
" June 3. John Davies & Alice Lloyd, both of Llanvorda.
" June 3. Thomas Prichard and Margaret Jones.
" June 16. William Smith, corviser, and Jane Jones.
" June 22. Edward Roberts of ye p. of Llanyblodwell and Sarah Hughes of this p., by licence.
" June 30. Edward Edwards and Margaret Evans, spinster, both of this p.
" June 23. John Pryce, joyner, and Mary Evans, both of this p.
" July 18. Richard Edwards of Aston and Margaret Evans, spinster.
" July 21. Richard Tudor, blacksmith, of Measbury, & Margarit Ellis, spr.
" July 25. Samuel Ward and Jane Edmunds, both of Treylech, by licence.

have asked shropshire archives do they have a record

regs.brian