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Title: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: COLINMKING on Wednesday 07 November 18 17:01 GMT (UK)
I am trying to trace the life of Edith M Sexton who travelled to New Zealand in 1920 on the shop Reuhine from Southampton. Edith was born in Nayland in 1891 daughter of Thomas and Emma Sexton. I think she married and had a son Stuart.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 07 November 18 17:28 GMT (UK)
There is this marriage on the New Zealand BDM

1921/313   Edith Mary   Sexton   Thomas More   Thomson

I'll have a look and see what children they had.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 07 November 18 17:36 GMT (UK)
Not coming up with any child called Stuart though.

By the way Welcome to Rootschat.   :)
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: COLINMKING on Wednesday 07 November 18 17:41 GMT (UK)
Thank you.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 07 November 18 18:20 GMT (UK)
A possible death for Edith:-

1969/46963   Thomson   Edith Mary   77Y

Comes up with a birth year of 1892 which is near enough.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: COLINMKING on Wednesday 07 November 18 21:03 GMT (UK)
That looks good. We know her middle name was actually Maud. It however this is the right person 1969 would tie in with the life lengths of her siblings in the UK. Thompson was a name that had been mentioned as a possible Married name. Thank you once again Colin King. Edith is my Great Aunt.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 07 November 18 21:33 GMT (UK)
Where did her middle name of Maud come from?  There are no births registered for an Edith Maud within the relevant time frame, only Edith Mary.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: COLINMKING on Wednesday 07 November 18 22:23 GMT (UK)
Edith Maud Sexton was born in Nayland Suffolk England 1891 and emigrated to New Zealand 1920 and married in New Zealand and we know she had a son Stuart. More than that we are at a loss.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 07 November 18 22:40 GMT (UK)
So somewhere along the way she dropped the Mary and called herself Edith Maud?  Below is her baptism record which I assume you have.

First name(s)   Edith Mary
Last name   Sexton
Birth year   1890
Baptism year   1890
Baptism date   26 Oct 1890
Place   Nayland
Father's first name(s)   Thomas
Mother's first name(s)   Margaret Emma
Relationship   Dau Of
Parents   Thomas & Margaret Emma
County   Suffolk
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: kiwihalfpint on Wednesday 07 November 18 22:44 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Have asked for this to be moved to the NZ board.

Cheers
KHP
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 07 November 18 22:48 GMT (UK)
This is from the New Zealand Electoral rolls for 1925

Edith Mary   Thomson
Electoral year   1925
Number   9028
Married and living at 7 Martin Square
Electorate area of Wellington Central

Hubby Thomas More Thomson also on this list living at the same address as Edith.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 07 November 18 23:04 GMT (UK)
Mention of the husband:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/PBH19351102.2.123?phrase=2&query=Thomas+more+thompson

Jamjar
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Girl Guide on Wednesday 07 November 18 23:13 GMT (UK)
Hmm a death for a Thomas More Thomson in 1969, same year as Edith.

1969/35956   Thomson   Thomas More   73Y

Gives a birth year of 1896 which suggests that he was younger than Edith.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 08 November 18 00:24 GMT (UK)
At Wellington:

Last name:THOMSON
First name:EDITH MARY
Age:77 Years
Deceased date:26-3-1969
Service provided:Cremation
Cremation date:28-3-1969
Cemetery:Crematorium
Record number:30712

Last name:THOMSON
First name:THOMAS MORE
Age:73 Years
Deceased date:16-7-1969
Service provided:Cremation
Cremation date:18-7-1969
Cemetery:Crematorium
Record number:31155

Jamjar
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Janette on Thursday 08 November 18 19:20 GMT (UK)
Not coming up with any child called Stuart though.

By the way Welcome to Rootschat.   :)

Children born less that 100 yrs will not show on NZ BDM's

Cheers Janette
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 08 November 18 19:56 GMT (UK)
There is this marriage on the New Zealand BDM

1921/313   Edith Mary   Sexton   Thomas More   Thomson

I'll have a look and see what children they had.

Should just point out that New Zealand Birth registration records ( at online Birth index) are only available up to "today's date"  in the current year.   On this index you'll only find "Births which occurred at least 100 years ago".  ;)

    ~  Lu

**  Now see this info was given previously.
   
I have looked at the Electoral rolls ( a useful tool, as sometimes children can be found sharing an address with their parents).    No evidence found of children with Edith and Thomas More THOMSON though.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 08 November 18 20:24 GMT (UK)
Hi COLINMKING

You may be able to find the name(s) of next-of-kin for Edith and Thomas More THOMSON by making contact with the Karori Cemetery in Wellington where their cremations took place.

Use the following link >
https://wellington.govt.nz/services/community-and-culture/cemeteries/cemeteries-search

... scroll to end of page for the link to the cemeteries office.

   ~  Lu

Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 08 November 18 20:50 GMT (UK)
Archives New Zealand have the following WW1 NZ Army File for a Thomas More THOMSON (whom I assume is the man who wed Edith SEXTON ?)

http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE19731251

I haven't read through this file as yet, but did note that his next-of-kin was his mother whose name is given as "Mrs Stewart THOMSON" (of Bothwell, Scotland).

*  Is this maybe where the name "Stuart" has come from ?

*  Is the "supposed son" named "Stewart" ....  rather than "Stuart" ??
[Note:   My earlier search of Electoral rolls included both of these spellings ]

    ~  Lu

Edited to add :  Yes, this is the husband of Edith - confirmed in Image 9 of Army file.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Thursday 08 November 18 23:49 GMT (UK)
In case this is of interest ...

Thomas More THOMSON appears to have arrived in Wellington, New Zealand, as an unaccompanied 17-year-old, in 1914 per the ship "Ruapehu".

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-61R9-6CS?i=14&cc=1609792

Shown as  "T. M. THOMSON " on the passenger and immigration lists -- occupation : clerk - last place of permanent residence was Scotland.

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: COLINMKING on Monday 29 August 22 11:39 BST (UK)
Sorry to take so long to come back, To much going on in life. But now retired time is a little easier. Edith May/Mary is the right one have checked with two of her living nephews now in their 90's. o any info you can give would be a god send to them. Thank you.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 29 August 22 11:51 BST (UK)
Enough time has passed for the son to show in the BDMs


1921/28589   Thomson   Stewart Thomas      Edith Mary   Thomas More
A print out can be ordered and emailed

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dBirthSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults


Same site has his death 2009. 

WW2 airforce.  https://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/record/95894

Seems to have lived  predominantly  in Wellington area.
Was an accountant.
In  1949 & 1957 a Mary Alice Thomson, married, is at same address.

Possible death of Mary Alice

1963/42682   Thomson   Mary Alice    41Y
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Monday 29 August 22 15:47 BST (UK)
Hello again COLINMKING

A snippet from a Wellington, New Zealand, newspaper of 1945, announcing the engagement of the son Stewart, to Mary Alice.    [ They wed in the same year.  ]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19450906.2.107.1

   ~  Lu
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 29 August 22 21:24 BST (UK)
Death:

2009/23659   Thomson   Stewart Thomas       11 October 1921


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 29 August 22 21:42 BST (UK)
It may be possible to contact Wellington Libraries and request a death notice newspaper scan for Stewart Thomas to be e-mailed to you. Not sure if there will be charge. The notice may have details of other family members including siblings.

[From 'Memory Tree']

THOMSON, Stewart Thomas.

Died 18 September 2009
Age 87y
New Zealand
Published Notices (1)
The Dominion Post (1)

https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/334185/Enquiry-Form

https://wcl.govt.nz/

Or perhaps you could ask if a Rootschatter would do a look up for you.


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: minniehaha on Monday 29 August 22 21:46 BST (UK)
Son's engagement in 1945......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19450906.2.107.1?end_date=31-12-1945&query=mary+alice+prickett&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1945


Minniehaha.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Monday 29 August 22 22:37 BST (UK)
Son's engagement in 1945......

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/EP19450906.2.107.1?end_date=31-12-1945&query=mary+alice+prickett&snippet=true&start_date=01-01-1945


Minniehaha.

   .... the link to this already given earlier.
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Monday 29 August 22 22:52 BST (UK)
It may be possible to contact Wellington Libraries and request a death notice newspaper scan for Stewart Thomas to be e-mailed to you. Not sure if there will be charge. The notice may have details of other family members including siblings.

[From 'Memory Tree']

THOMSON, Stewart Thomas.

Died 18 September 2009
Age 87y
New Zealand
Published Notices (1)
The Dominion Post (1)

https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/334185/Enquiry-Form

https://wcl.govt.nz/

Or perhaps you could ask if a Rootschatter would do a look up for you.


Minniehaha.

Just wanted to advise that the service in respect of newspaper look-ups / acccessibility to local newspapers,  once offered by Wellington City Libraries - Central Library - is no longer available and hasn't been since the Central Library was vacated owing to earthquake damage some years back.   

COLINMKING ... I have some further information for you - which includes accessing a newspaper death notice.   Will add here in a following post.

     ~   Lu 
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Monday 29 August 22 23:08 BST (UK)
Hi COLLINMKING

The National Library of New Zealand [ Natlib ] should be able to assist you in sourcing a copy of the Death notice for Stewart Thomas THOMSON.

You'll need to give them the following details >

THOMSON - Stewart Thomas

Died at Wellington on Sunday, 18 September 2009  :


Death/Funeral Notice :   Published in "Dominion Post" (Wellington)

Here is the link to Natlib  >    https://natlib.govt.nz/
>  go to top right-hand of page  > use the "ask a librarian" facility.

    ~  Lu
                                                                     >  see next   >


Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Monday 29 August 22 23:32 BST (UK)
For COLLINMKING

https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE63971223

The ^ above link will take you to the Probate file for Alfred William PRICKETT who was the father-in-law of Edith's son, Stewart Thomas THOMSON.

His Will can be found on the last page of the file and of interest is the reference to "my son-in-law Stewart THOMSON" whereby it states (paragraph 3) ..."that any benefit taken by my said son-in-law under this my will, shall be applied for the benefit of his children".

"... his children"  suggests that Stewart had a family with wife Mary Alice (nee PRICKETT).
[ Sadly, Mary Alice THOMSON had died on 26 January 1963 and Alfred PRICKETT's Will was not drawn up until May of 1963, hence the reason she is not named in it. ]

I know that earlier here, mckha had searched electoral rolls for Stewart T. THOMSON and I'd also had a look to see if there may have been children living with their father ... but alas, no ... nothing found.   Hopefully though, if you contact the National Library of NZ they may be able to locate the death notice for Stewart THOMPSON.

    ~  Lu
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: Lucy2 on Tuesday 30 August 22 00:01 BST (UK)
For COLINMKING   >  >     ...    *    updated information    *

I didn't really look too hard earlier on although I'd seen that there were "Private trees" noted on the ancestry.com site for both Mary Alice PRICKETT and one of her sisters, Freda Jean PRICKETT.

Have now noticed that there are a number of "public trees"  also for same (viewable with  ancestry subscription or via access at a puiblic library) :

So, if you can access the ancestry.com website you might like to try contacting the "tree owners" ?
[One of the children of Stewart and Mary Alice is fairly recently deceased - I'd rather not though publish the name in this thread ... can send it to you via PM if you wish. ]

     ~  Lu
Title: Re: Looking for details on Edith Sexton in New Zealand
Post by: COLINMKING on Tuesday 30 August 22 13:28 BST (UK)
I need to say the biggest Thank You ever for all the info forwarded to me. Edith Sexton was a Great Aunt of mine and an Aunt to my Grand parents 14 (yes 14) children,s. So you can imagine how big our family tree is. Now well over 2500 entries back to 1525. If anybody is related to Edith's family in New Zealand please get in touch as my knowledge of the Sexton Family goes back several  .

Any more news would be fantastic as two of my Uncles (both in their 90's are still alive and have fond memories of their Aunt Edith. And Cousin Stewart who visited their home in Colchester England in WW2.

Once again Thank You   Colin King