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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Nic. on Thursday 08 November 18 15:44 GMT (UK)
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I’ve just seen a tweet from Ancestry UK saying:
“Explore your WWI connection with Free Access to 1.8 billion wartime records this #Remembrance weekend. Use census, military, electoral, occupation, education & parish registers to learn about your ancestors“
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Also mentioned here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=803259.
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i tried to access this about half an hour ago (8am Oz time). Gave up after waiting 10 mins or so to load. Will try again later, after bathing two large very muddy dogs!
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Just seen this “new”? Dataset but it doesn’t seem to be available on the free uk weekend ::)
UK, WWI Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923, released from Western Front Association... seems to be on Ancestry.com (US site) but not free
https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?htx=List&dbid=61588
There are a couple of records on there I have found but cannot view... can anyone check to see if it’s available with a sub or do I need a fold 3 sub too
Austin Langford Creed and George William Burdett
Thanks
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Usually Fold 3
Austin Langford Creed - 1886 - Rank Rfm (Deceased)
Residence Place Parkston Dorset - Military Service Region South West, England
Discharge Date: 24 Apr 1919 - Service Number 591859 - Regiment London
Title Pension Record Cards - Description Pension Record Ledger - Reference Number 8/MC/2245
C/O Mrs Gibson The Snellling, Parkstone Avenue. Parkstone. Dorset.
Gunshot wound rt forearm & rest ???
pulmonary tuberculois
In pencil :- Man died 4/7/20
Left hand margin a list of dates in pencil.
Sandra
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George William Burdett- 1896 - Rank Pte - Residence Place Countesthorpe Leicestershire
Military Service Region North Midlands, England
Discharge Date: 21 Aug 1917 - Service Number 18190 - Regiment Leicester
Title: Pension Record Cards - Description Pension Record Ledger - Reference Number 7/MB/8298
Central Street Countesthorpe Leicestershire -
G S W Rt Forearm - G S W (net word over written and could be) Head/Hand.
State whether attributed oraggravated by service or non attributable :- Attrib
Sandra
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Or George William Burdett - Rank Pte
Residence Place Edge Hill, Liverpool - Military Service Region North West, England
Service Number 26775 - Regiment Hants
Title Pension Record Cards Description Pension Record Ledger Reference Number 3/MB/23252
49 Marmaduke Street Edge Hill Liverpool -
Transferred to Midlands Region 6.2.24
There are 4 more if either of the two above are not the correct ones.
Sandra
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Oh thank you Sandra,
Austin is the right man, my father in law’s cousin.
George Burdett is the wrong man, my George Burdett lived in Plumsread.
Many thanks for looking.
Jenny
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George Burdett is the wrong man, my George Burdett lived in Plumsread.
Is that Plumstead ???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plumstead
Any other information to posiitively identify him ???Did George have a wife or a mothers name ( which might identify him ) ???
Here are 2 London ones. ???
George Wm Burdett
Rank Pte - Military Service Region Eastern/London/South East, England
Death Date 25 Sep 1916 - Service Number 9399 - Regiment Sussex
Title: Pension Record Cards - Description Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number: 11/PP/19589/D/89
Claimant Sarah Burdett (mother - aged 67 years ) - North Street Blofield Norwich.
or a William George Burdett
Rank Pte - Military Service Region Eastern/London/South East, England
Death Date 5 May 1915 - Service Number 13230 - Regiment R Fus - killed in action.
Title: Pension Record Cards - Description Pension Record Ledger
Reference Number 11/PP/28894/D/94
Mother Emma Foster - 25 Wyke Road Bow E3 - mother - aged 69 years
Sandra
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Sorry that should have read Plumstead (I was on my ipad and it has a nasty habit of changing text ::) )
Ok so George used several names...
he was born George Walter Robert Burdett (sometimes called himself George Charles)
born 15 Aug 1883 to George W Burdett and Emma (Murfet) in Tottenham
his mother died when he was 4 and appears to have been bought up by his grandparents
From his Royal Fusilier discharge papers (on Ancestry)
Attested 24 April 1902 Royal Fusiliers
service number #1405819 former number 33735
Gunner and musician (bandsman)
married Beatrice Payne Sept 1912
2 daughters and one son George William 1915, Katherine W 1917 and living daughter 1920)
discharged 23 Nov 1923 at Dover
medals British War, Victoria and 1914-1915 star.. Plus long service and good conduct
address on discharge was in Woolwich though the children were all born Plumstead
he received a small pension
there is also a remark No 9519 4/R Fusiliers
As he was still in the army after 1920 he doesn't appear in the service/pension/medal records on Ancestry.
George died 7 April 1929 Bournemouth
Thank you again Sandra
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Jenny, Sorry I have not read all of Sandra's replies but have you tried looking on Fold 3 as that is also free this weekend.
Mind you I have found their search facility awful as it was not bringing up records of those I knew were there until I put a service number in. If they were there they were amongst a load of irrelevant results.
Rosie
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Hi Rosie,
Yes, but it just keeps telling me to subscribe as these records appear to be on the US site and not UK.
Though, I have just this minute subscribed to worldwide (on the very favourable discount) and still having trouble finding the record set even though I have linked Fold3 to Ancestry. I will try from the blog link I posted earlier, hopefully I can download the records for Austin at the very least.
I do have others I would like to look up but the above 2 are the most important to me.
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I hope you manage to find them. I have found one of mine who was born and lived in a village in Cambridgeshire who died in WW1 and they have him transcribed as being in the USA forces not UK.
I will be having another go and tracking down some others of mine later :)
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I haven't found the right George Burdett but his military career was difficult to trace down in the first place! He's my husband's grandfather.
I have found a great uncle on my side of the family... he was married and was KIA 1914 but it was his mother who claimed a pension not his wife! :o
I found another Great uncle too, a few more to find... I come from a large family ;D
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From his Royal Fusilier discharge papers (on Ancestry)
But you say his record isn't on ancestry, because he was discharged after 1920?
There is George Charles Burdett on the other main website, in the Royal Artillery Attestations
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G C Burdett, 33735, Royal Garrison Artillery, Medal Index Card
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n07/
G C Burdett, 1914-15 Star
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n09/
George Charlres Burdett, British War Medal and Victory Medal
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0a/
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Jonw65,
I meant he wasn't found in the medal card index, pension or service records and I mean this was years ago!
As mentioned, I later found him in the RF discharge papers under the name George CHARLES Burdett (not his birth name of George Walter Burdett) and also in later released datasets. Regarding the pension ledgers, I was interested to see if there was "any other information"/
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Yes, but it just keeps telling me to subscribe as these records appear to be on the US site and not UK.
They are on the UK site
UK, WWI Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=61588
From the UK site you get free access to the images on Fold3 this weekend.
At the moment ancestry page is sometimes changing from .co.uk to .com during searches. Very annoying!
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Well he is in the medal records now.
Service records no, because, as you say, he served after 1920.
John