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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Derry (Londonderry) => Topic started by: Peggy13 on Thursday 08 November 18 19:16 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
I ordered the administration of will for Hugh McKnight, laborer, who died June 8, 1908, Annaghmore, as per the administration. Administration was by Jennie McKnight. However, I can't find Hugh's death record anywhere. Can anyone else? I would like to know more about Hugh, such as his age and parents. In the administration, it states that his grandfather Hugh had died Nov 27, 1907 and had willed his grandson Hugh $100 (the one who died in 1908). Grandfather was born about 1819 and had wife Mary (as per gravestone) who died 1877 although I don't know Mary's surname and I don't find her death either. Anyway, I would like to know grandson Hugh's parents. Grandfather Hugh had sons Hugh, William, George, Samuel and Thomas (but Thomas didn't marry) so there are a few choices there.
Thanks for any help.
Peggy
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Peggy - on the Irish civil Reg Index he is recorded as Hugh M'Knight. Q/E Mar 1908 Magherafelt.
Edit -- I am assuming this is him as he has a birth year of c 1820.
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The Hugh registered in the first quarter of 1908 is the grandfather Hugh who died in Nov 1907 and was born abt 1819. I am thinking the grandson would be born 1870ish.
Thanks for your help
Peggy
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Have you checked the 1901 Irish census for him?
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Sorry -- I misunderstood which Hugh you were seeking.
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Marriage
Party 1 Name HUGH MCKNIGHT
Party 2 Name HANNAH GREER
Date of Event 01 December 1874 ??
son of Hugh Annaghmore also
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1874/11252/8126476.pdf
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C Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Hugh McKnight of Magherafelt from 1844 to 1911
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mzq/
You can try a New Search and just put Surname and Magherafelt as District plus whatever year range you want starting 1864 and study them ar your leisure
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I think the
Name HUGH MCKNIGHT
Date of Birth 1881 is grandson!
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This all looks very feasible and it all fits although I am a bit leary of the fact that Hugh married Hannah in Leitrim. I did check the 1901 census as suggested and the only Hugh that I find in Leitrum is only 12, not 20. I don't find a Hugh at all age 20.
I followed up on Hugh age 12 and there was a Hugh born 1888 in Leitrim to Samuel McKnight and Nancy Pickering. By 1901, Samuel is deceased. Grandfather Hugh does not mention his son Samuel in his will but that could be because Samuel is deceased if this is Grandfather Hugh's son. So I followed up on the marriage of Samuel McKnight and Nancy Pickering and found it in 1877 but Samuel's father is William not Hugh.
To carry the story further, according to grandfather's will, Grandfather Hugh wills the widow of his deceased son Hugh 25 livres but her name is Isabella. Since the will was written in July 1905, son Hugh would be deceased before 1905. That further means if this is the same son Hugh, Hannah must have died and Hugh remarried before 1905. I don't find Hannah's death or Hugh's remarriage or any marriage to an Isabella.
I am grateful for all help and hopefully we will solve this.
Peggy
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;D Plain as mud!
Hugh married Hannah in Leitrim as son of whom??.
HUGH MCKNIGHT
Date of Birth 1881 was son of Hugh
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You are right, Hugh who married Hannah Greer was from Annaghmore and his father was Hugh. So that fits. Hugh born in 1881 was Hugh and Hannah's son - that fits and would make him a grandson to Grandfather Hugh who died in Nov 1907. But where is grandson Hugh in 1901? Maybe he went to America or somewhere. The rest of the story is that Hannah must have died if Isabella was Grandfather Hugh's daughter-in-law and widow of his deceased son Hugh by 1905. Unless Hannah was Hannah Isabella. We would still need the death of son Hugh before 1905. And where is Hannah or Isabella in 1901 or 1911?
Maybe we have to look outside Ireland.
Peggy
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That is why I posted the Link to them so you can study them at leisure as it can get messy if wrong people get posted.
Also, McNeight was also a variant of name.
Even doing this Census search doesn't show Hugh
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....nor a 30 y.o. Hugh in 1911
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Aha. I think we are onto something. I found a Hugh McKnight in 1900 in Philadelphia, wife Isabella, sons William and Thomas but Isabella had had no children. So I looked up the births of William and Thomas in Ireland and they were sons of Hugh and Hannah Greer. I also found the marriage of Hugh McKnight and Isabella Irwin Oct 11, 1888 in Gloucester City, Camden Co., New Jersey although I didn't see an image to see Hugh's father but now it is all falling into place. But where is grandson Hugh?
And now, I have just found the death of Hugh McKnight in Philadelphia on Jan 1, 1904, born Ireland 1854, both parents born Ireland. Doesn't say wife's name but he is married.
This might be a good time to mention that I have been chasing Elizabeth McKnight married to Hugh Brown who was married in 1883 in Philadelphia and then they lived in Gloucester City, Camden Co. New Jersey. The last time i found Elizabeth is on the 1930 census and the last time I found Hugh is on the 1940 census. His father is William Henry Brown of Ireland but I don't know her father's name. Just that in the much discussed will, Grandfather Hugh mentions his daughter Elizabeth Brown and I was going crazy trying to find a marriage in Ireland but then I found one in Philadelphia. In view of what we have just found regarding Hugh who is probably her brother, I think I was on the right track. But I can't find a death for Elizabeth Brown nee McKnight between 1930 and 1940 or for Hugh Brown after 1940.
Maybe grandson Hugh actually died in the USA but had money in Ireland.
Peggy
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Well it is 23:30 here so time to say Good McKnight !! ;D
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Good McKnight!!! I just found Hannah's death, under Anna in 1885. So now we have sorted out Hugh McKnight, wife and sons. Except for where is Hugh in 1901 and where exactly did he die?
I did find the emigration of a Hugh McKnight, age 23, in 1905 to Philadelphia, born Deroy which is probably Derry.
I wish I could find the deaths of Elizabeth Brown and her husband Hugh Brown in New Jersey.
Peggy
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Peggy13
Elizabeth McKnight Born Jan 1856 Ireland. Arrived New York 10 May 1876. Married Hugh Brown 12 April 1882 Philadelphia. Died 7 Feb 1938 at 302 North Boulevard, Gloucester City Camden NJ.
Buried 10 Feb 1938 at Harleigh Cemetery, NJ.
I found her Obit on www.newspapers.com;
Brown, -Feb 7 Elizabeth (nee McKnight), wife of Hugh Brown, aged 84 years.
Relatives and friends are invited to funeral, Thurs 2 P.M. from late residence
302 N Broadway, Gloucester, N. J. Int Harleigh Cem. Viewing Wed Eve.
Hugh Brown, Born 12 Mar 1859 Tulylinskey, Magherafelt, Co Londonderry. Arrived 1878 (1930 census) / 1881 (1920 census). Died 22 Oct 1941 at 302 north Broadway Gloucester City Camden N.J. Buried 27 Oct 1941 with his wife Elizabeth at Harleigh Cemetery N.J.
His obit on www.newspapers.com:
Hugh Brown.
Services for Hugh Brown, 83, one of the oldest residents of Gloucester, who died Wednesday after a short illness, will b conducted Saturday at 2 p.m. at his residence 302 North Broadway. Burial will be in Harleigh Cemetery. Surviving are two sons, Augustus and William; three daughters, Mrs Thomas Marshall and Mrs Grace Mower, all of Gloucester, and Mrs Abbie Laing , of Westmont: 12 grandchildren, and 10 great-grand-children.
Paul Simpson
Newtownards
N Ireland
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Thanks Paul for all this info. I had found some of it between this posting and your reply. I have yet to find the death of Olive T. Mower nee Brown, first wife of Samuel Walter Mower who later married Olive's sister Catherine Grace Brown. Also have not found the marriage to Catherine.
Peggy
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Olive Brown is shown in the 1929 US census taken over 26 & 27 Jan 1920 with Samuel and daughter.
She then appears in the NJ dea!ths index on Ancestry for Feb 1920.
Grace is married on US 1940 Federal Census. And it states she was resident at same address in 1935. This is the last record I have for her. Husband Samuel died March 1976 in Gloucester.
Paul Simpson
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Thanks Paul. I guess you mean 1920 census, not 1929.
Peggy