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Title: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: Fresh Fields on Friday 09 November 18 18:58 GMT (UK)
Hello.

Someone may be able to help repatriate, the certificate mentioned in this WAIKATO TIMES 9/11/18 front page article.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/108394968/family-sought-to-fill-in-blanks-of-private-james-haste

Alan.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 09 November 18 19:55 GMT (UK)
Wife was widowed at this 1935 marriage. Born 1894. Previous husband d 1932. [Sidney Moreton Diamond) they had married in 1922
I see no Diamond or Haste extras at same addresses on electoral rolls 1946 to 1969.

Relevant newspapers not on Papers Past. 
NZ cemeteries index just details interment of Sidney, no names of children.

Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Friday 09 November 18 22:23 GMT (UK)
Winifred Lucy May HASTE died 1/7/1974.  I think this would be the best death notice to locate, just in case they were without children.  Interestingly she was also from Hamilton at the time. http://cemeterybase.hdc.govt.nz/Details.aspx?id=HN3358
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Friday 09 November 18 22:26 GMT (UK)
Interestingly there is a HASTE birth listed in 2001 in the Hawkes Bay area.

[Link not posted as reference to a living person].
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 09 November 18 22:32 GMT (UK)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9TV7-1LF?i=172&cc=1865481

Will of Sydney Moreton Diamond,   Wife and then to his nieces and nephews
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 09 November 18 22:41 GMT (UK)
There is a will for Winifred at Auckland Archives.   
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Monday 12 November 18 05:35 GMT (UK)
Newspaper notices obtained.

No next of kin nor relatives apart from James mentioned in Winifred's death notice.

3 living sisters mentioned in James'.


Happy to email notices to anyone.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 12 November 18 05:56 GMT (UK)
Has anyone emailed the man in the article to tell him?
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Monday 12 November 18 06:06 GMT (UK)
Yes, just told him about this thread and passed on the 2 death notices.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 12 November 18 06:08 GMT (UK)
 :)
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Monday 12 November 18 08:01 GMT (UK)
James' WW1 service file lists his mother as next of kin, so perhaps tracing siblings and then descendants is possible?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0l/
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 12 November 18 08:08 GMT (UK)
1928 electoral roll has a Leila Blanche HASTE, spinster, living with James

she married Andrew KIDD in 1936

modified - she died 1994   born 29 December 1899

her parents Mary Louisa and Hedley Vicars
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 12 November 18 08:15 GMT (UK)
other births (not James Herbert though)

1895/6215   Haste   Doris   Mary Louisa   Hedley Vicars   -died age 4 weeks
1892/6993   Haste   Hedley Vicars   Mary Louisa   Hedley Vicars   -died age 1
1901/11739   Haste   Frances Doris   Mary Louisa   Hedley Vicars   - married Leslie K. H. JENSEN
1904/13521   Haste   Mabel Alice   Mary Louisa   Hedley Vicars   -married Henry George SKELTON
1900/2638   Haste   Leila Blanche   Mary Louisa   Hedley Vicars   -Married Andrew KIDD
1903/21673   Haste   Harold Gilbert   Mary Louisa   Hedley Vickars   - died age 10 months
1894/4904   Haste   NR   Mary Louisa   Hedley Viears  probably James Herbert?
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 12 November 18 08:17 GMT (UK)
Frances Doris married 1937 to Leslie Karl Harold JENSEN in Auckland

Added death 1998

1998/228   Jensen   Frances Doris   3 November 1901
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 12 November 18 08:19 GMT (UK)
Mabel Alice married 1932 Henry George SKELTON


Added - Death 1996
1996/44011   Skelton   Mabel Alice   31 August 1904
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Monday 12 November 18 08:41 GMT (UK)
Doris, Alice and Leila were noted on the death notice for James along with 'Mirry'. 

[I hadn't checked their DOB or DOD so didn't post the names.]

Seems like the family liked to play around with names a bit, with James known as Bert.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 12 November 18 08:45 GMT (UK)
I don't see any children in electoral rolls so far

No idea who Mirry might be. 

Added - they were all in their 30s when they married. Except Mabel who was 28, so perhaps most chance of offspring there?
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Monday 12 November 18 08:57 GMT (UK)
James's DOB was listed as 20th February 1895 in the typed Attestation, and 22nd February 1895 in the History sheet.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Monday 12 November 18 09:03 GMT (UK)
This now private online family tree website has the parents listed. 
"Hedley Vicars Haste + Mary Louise Moore"

http://www.ourfamilytree.co.nz/

Perhaps contact with the owner might further the search?
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 12 November 18 09:04 GMT (UK)
James's DOB was listed as 20th February 1895 in the typed Attestation, and 22nd February 1895 in the History sheet.

And 12 feb 1894 on death reg!


Added, and if you do the narrows down thing on the births you get to 12 Feb 1894 for the NR birth
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Monday 12 November 18 09:24 GMT (UK)
Here is the family as you have already found out: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0m/

[The same owner as in previous post.]
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Monday 12 November 18 09:27 GMT (UK)
Mirry is probably Clara Miriam?
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Monday 12 November 18 09:35 GMT (UK)
Mirry is probably Clara Miriam?

You are probably correct.  I don’t see her in the birth reg though.

Added she married Sydney Charles CURD 1920
Added more. Died 1977 dob given as 8 jan 1898
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: Fresh Fields on Tuesday 13 November 18 19:02 GMT (UK)
Greetings all.

As initiator and host of this post, I would like to thank you all for your input. I've had two unsuccessful attempts [different accounts] of contacting Wally BILTON, to brief him of your findings.

Not sure it I've been spamed out, or Wally is otherwise engaged. I do have his full address details should a need arise, if he is not responding to those personally supplying info.


Regards,

Alan.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Tuesday 13 November 18 19:35 GMT (UK)
Hey Alan

Just to let you know I intend to follow the Leila lineage, but it won't be until tomorrow.

No reply either to using the email address in the article, but not everyone checks their emails daily.

Twiggy
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Wednesday 14 November 18 00:52 GMT (UK)
I believe I have found Leila's son.  Am going to try and make contact and pass on the article.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Wednesday 14 November 18 03:07 GMT (UK)
Had a quick chat with a lovely gentleman (Leila's son) who is James' nephew, and was executor of his will.

Left the details of the article and this thread and hope he and the certificate holder make contact.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 14 November 18 03:09 GMT (UK)
Well done Twiggy.   :)
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: TwiggyTree on Wednesday 14 November 18 03:26 GMT (UK)
It was a team effort Mckha489.  Makes a world of difference being able to bounce ideas off other like-minded individuals in a game of genealogical ping pong.

Really appreciate this community!
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: Fresh Fields on Wednesday 14 November 18 03:34 GMT (UK)
Greetings.

A very big thanks for your research, from Wally whom I've just contacted by phone.

Will forward a phone number you can contact Wally on by PM..

Alan.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: Fresh Fields on Wednesday 14 November 18 03:50 GMT (UK)
Having transcribed wartime diaries and letters home, it always gives me a buzz if in a small way I'm able to assist in repatriating memorabilia, to extended family here in NZ. Not the first thime, and hopefully, not the last either.


Without the records data at home, nor subscriptions to the larger genealogy records providers, this brilliant NZ board Rootschat team, are the first I think of, and am always appreciative of your unstinting contributions. Helps to rekindle faith in our community, after hearing some of the goings on today, when it seams to be "all about me".


Regards all,

Alan.
Title: Re: James Herbert HASTE. WWI service certificate
Post by: Fresh Fields on Friday 16 November 18 18:09 GMT (UK)
Greetings all.

Had confirmation from Wally BILTON that the mission is complete. Thanks to all who contributed.

Alan.