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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: jksdelver on Saturday 10 November 18 21:15 GMT (UK)
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If so how much the top or bottom figure or none at all. Does it the word say ‘ illegible’ ?
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It says "ineligible " - so she didn't get it after all. That would have been quite a blow.
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Yes thanks noticed I had read it wrong. Do you think that the second line of figures are in a different hand and added later? If so then did she get one?
It says "ineligible " - so she didn't get it after all. That would have been quite a blow.
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It looks like the same hand to me and there's only one date. Is there anything in the next right hand column, after ineligible ?
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Thanks again no nothing in that column. This entry in the first column ????
It looks like the same hand to me and there's only one date. Is there anything in the next right hand column, after ineligible ?
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I'd say it was the childrens' allowance she was ineligible for.
MaxD
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Thanks MaxD if that is the case I wonder why that would be as my father was alive then. Interesting point though
I'd say it was the childrens' allowance she was ineligible for.
MaxD
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Don't know without detail of the family circumstances.
maxD
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Yup that’s right. She wouldn’t have had any money really to live on.
Don't know without detail of the family circumstances.
maxD
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By way of comparison, the average weekly wage for an agricultural labourer in 1919 was £1 10s 6d (government source) so she was fairly near that if she received the widow's element.
MaxD
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Thanks MaxD
By way of comparison, the average weekly wage for an agricultural labourer in 1919 was £1 10s 6d (government source) so she was fairly near that if she received the widow's element.
MaxD
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Interestingly, a short while before my g.uncle was killed on 24 November 1917, he apparently said to his friend "Well, look here George, if I should happen to be killed I should like all my property and belongings to go to my girl". His friend asked for her address and he wrote it on a scrap of paper which he kept in his pocket book. After the war, the friend wrote a letter to this effect to the Captain of the 19th Hussars and this letter was attached to a form called Nuncupative or Missing Will sent to the War Office and made the will valid.
So "his girl" received 2 sums of money £14.15 as his effects and £19 as war gratuity as his sole legatee. What amazes me is that "his girl" married at the beginning of 1919, before the payments were made. I'm amazed that even if she was given his effects she was given the war gratuity, as in reality she was no longer his sole legatee. He had 2 brothers and 2 sisters still alive at that time, but sadly none of his medals etc. were given to his family, even though his elder brother and sister were shown as his next of kin. I thought nowadays if a war widow re-married she lost all rights to a pension etc.
And it makes no sense in the case when in the case of jksdelver's gran she was ineligible for children's allowance.
Just a thought jksdelver - do you actually know if your grandma's husband was the father of your father? If not perhaps that's why the allowance was disallowed.
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Thanks for the obeservatiosn Lizziew. Certainly the last paragraph !!!. Well her husband Arthur entered the war after my father was born. He is named on dads birth, and baptism as well. So of course nothing is certain only DNA would have proved that.
One interesting story though, my grandad had no known grave. My dad passed away before grandma, when we went to tell her the sad news she said”well I know where he is” meaning of course that she didn’t know where Arthur her husband was.
Going back to your last paragraph, it would be a shame having researched names sake for what seems like hundred years would have been all wasted lol
Thanks again
Interestingly, a short while before my g.uncle was killed on 24 November 1917, he apparently said to his friend "Well, look here George, if I should happen to be killed I should like all my property and belongings to go to my girl". His friend asked for her address and he wrote it on a scrap of paper which he kept in his pocket book. After the war, the friend wrote a letter to this effect to the Captain of the 19th Hussars and this letter was attached to a form called Nuncupative or Missing Will sent to the War Office and made the will valid.
So "his girl" received 2 sums of money £14.15 as his effects and £19 as war gratuity as his sole legatee. What amazes me is that "his girl" married at the beginning of 1919, before the payments were made. I'm amazed that even if she was given his effects she was given the war gratuity, as in reality she was no longer his sole legatee. He had 2 brothers and 2 sisters still alive at that time, but sadly none of his medals etc. were given to his family, even though his elder brother and sister were shown as his next of kin. I thought nowadays if a war widow re-married she lost all rights to a pension etc.
And it makes no sense in the case when in the case of jksdelver's gran she was ineligible for children's allowance.
Just a thought jksdelver - do you actually know if your grandma's husband was the father of your father? If not perhaps that's why the allowance was disallowed.
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Hopefully you weren't offended, I was just thinking why your gran wouldn't have been eligible for a children's allowance, assuming, of course, that your dad wasn't passed school leaving age (14) when his father was killed.
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Certainly not LizzieW. Any suggestions are always appreciated. Dad was born in 1915, shortly after the marriage !!!. I would like to think that she did get a pension and it’s the second amount. If she didn’t then I would wonder why?
Hopefully you weren't offended, I was just thinking why your gran wouldn't have been eligible for a children's allowance, assuming, of course, that your dad wasn't passed school leaving age (14) when his father was killed.