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Title: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: Westy11 on Sunday 11 November 18 04:31 GMT (UK)

I am wondering what is Rebecca's surname. it was transcribed as CLARKE.

Rebecca and Joseph WHITMORE married in 1732

Have posted to the Liecestershire board as well as the family lived in Leicestershire. 

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=803384.new#new

Other suggestion Fance, Fawxe alias Faux.

Westy

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 11 November 18 04:35 GMT (UK)

I see ffane. So Fane

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: Westy11 on Sunday 11 November 18 04:47 GMT (UK)

Thank you.  What do you think is her age?

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: mckha489 on Sunday 11 November 18 04:50 GMT (UK)

Quote from: Westy11 on Sunday 11 November 18 04:47 GMT (UK)

Thank you.  What do you think is her age?

24 or 27 or 29. “Or there about”.  :)
I prefer 24

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: horselydown86 on Sunday 11 November 18 04:55 GMT (UK)

I think 24 for her, 28? for him.

Is the smaller image from the marriage register?

That one could be ffawx.

I wouldn't want to be dogmatic about her surname in the Marriage Bond.

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 11 November 18 04:57 GMT (UK)

Kane ?

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: Westy11 on Sunday 11 November 18 05:53 GMT (UK)

I think the smaller was from another marriage and it was suggested it was a similar spelling. 

I would like to be dogmatic about the surname as Rebecca is my 7th great grandmother.

Westy

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: horselydown86 on Sunday 11 November 18 07:19 GMT (UK)

I want to raise the possibility that she has a long surname of at least two words, and that it ends before the word Singlewom(a)ⁿ.

The short word looks to be de, commonly used in Latin entries of all kinds for of (the parish of _____).

However there's no other Latin in this entry.

So does the surname end with:  de ?esford or de ?isford

It  is only a suggestion.  I'd be interested to hear what others think.

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: djm297 on Sunday 11 November 18 07:50 GMT (UK)

I think the surname is Hare and then it says "de Desford"....of Desford.

djm297

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 11 November 18 10:43 GMT (UK)

I see Hare too.
Carol

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: Bookbox on Sunday 11 November 18 11:46 GMT (UK)

Late to the party, but my vote would be for Rebecca ffane de Desford.

I don’t think it starts with H. Looking at the following bond – the body of which is in the same hand – the groom is Henry Sikes, and the H for Henry/Henricum is very different; the verticals are straight and not looped. So I do think this is ff = F.

The third letter is not r but n – compare with the letter n in Singlewo(ma)n (both in the middle and at the end). The letter r is more open in this hand.

Looking at the whole image, the top part of the bond is in Latin, where Joseph is de Newbold Verdon. The de matches well, and I’m confident that Rebecca is de Desford.

How the surname could possibly have been read originally as Clarke defeats me.

Title: Re: Rebecca's surname?
Post by: Westy11 on Sunday 11 November 18 12:19 GMT (UK)

Based on Bookbox's post I went searching and located the attached. :)

Thank you so much.

Now to locate Rebecca's parents and baptism.

Westy