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Title: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Sunday 11 November 18 19:59 GMT (UK)
Was he still alive in 1923 then ?
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 11 November 18 20:53 GMT (UK)
Be helpful if we had some more info about him - particularly his Regimental number as there are approx 600 William Reid's on the MRI

Edit

You note it says "returned"  if you use Google - you get this info

https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/92039-kings-regulations-992-kr-1923/
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Sunday 11 November 18 21:06 GMT (UK)
Born WEXFORD Ireland 1864 service record gives two dates of birth
Attached is his service numbers. Certainly one of them confirms I have the right man. I’d just want it know though if those entries indicates he was dead.


Be helpful if we had some more info about him - particularly his Regimental number as there are approx 600 William Reid's on the MRI

How would we know if he was still alive in 1923 when you haven't given a birthyear/birthplace etc etc?

You note it says "returned"
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 11 November 18 21:06 GMT (UK)
See my edit above
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Sunday 11 November 18 21:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you. William was supposed to have died a few months after my father in law was born in 1913 On the ‘ Cape Town run’ (sailor) but from these records he was obviously alive much later than that. His wife remarried as a widow in 1922.

See my edit above
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jim1 on Monday 12 November 18 14:39 GMT (UK)
Nothing to indicate he died during WW1. On saying that his widow is applying for his medals in 1924. She refers to him as her late husband. This is after they had been returned for correction in 1923. It's possible he returned them but died before getting them back.
Her address at the time was 116 Wellington Rd. Park Rd. Dingle L'pool.
His Regts. were 1st. Garrison Battalion R.I.R. with whom he served in Gallipoli hence his 15 Star.
Then Lab. Corps, R.E. & finally Inland Waterways & Docks (R.E.).
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: hallmark on Monday 12 November 18 14:42 GMT (UK)
Died Where?
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: hallmark on Monday 12 November 18 14:48 GMT (UK)
Irish C Reg  Death results for William Reid from 1901 to 1915

You know his birth year so you can see if any fit by age at Death

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0n/
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jim1 on Monday 12 November 18 14:50 GMT (UK)
Quote
Irish C Reg  Death results for William Reid from 1901 to 1915
He was still alive in 1917 as the Lab. Corps didn't exist prior to this.
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: hallmark on Monday 12 November 18 14:55 GMT (UK)
The search parameters can be adjusted accordingly by doing a New Search!
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 16:24 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jim1 that’s great. I am wondering if he did die abroad prior to that date but after 1917 and before January 1922. His is wife’s application shown on the document I posted. Wellington Taid rings a bell in my research somewhere along the line

Thanks again

 
Nothing to indicate he died during WW1. On saying that his widow is applying for his medals in 1924. She refers to him as her late husband. This is after they had been returned for correction in 1923. It's possible he returned them but died before getting them back.
Her address at the time was 116 Wellington Rd. Park Rd. Dingle L'pool.
His Regts. were 1st. Garrison Battalion R.I.R. with whom he served in Gallipoli hence his 15 Star.
Then Lab. Corps, R.E. & finally Inland Waterways & Docks (R.E.).
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 16:29 GMT (UK)
Thanks Hallmark I have looked and trying to tie possible in. The family story that he died ‘on the Cape Town Run’ Also New York grrr one story is that he wanted to die on land with his ‘boots on ‘  it is now certain that he didn’t die shortly after my father in laws birth

Irish C Reg  Death results for William Reid from 1901 to 1915

You know his birth year so you can see if any fit by age at Death

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0n/
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 12 November 18 17:00 GMT (UK)
An address on William's army record is
10 Ct 1 House Rockerberry Street

1921 electoral register has William Reid, Elizabeth Reid at 1 in 10 Court, Rokeby Street, Everton Ward
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0o/

1922 at 116 Wellington Road, Dingle Ward, are Thomas Berry, John Berry, 2 others
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0p/
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 17:06 GMT (UK)
Oh nice one jonw65. Soooooo if he did die it’s got to be between say 1920 and January 1922. Her second marriage was to Thomas Berry.
Thanks a bunch.


An address on William's army record is
10 Ct 1 House Rockerberry Street

1921 electoral register has William Reid, Elizabeth Reid at 1 in 10 Court, Rokeby Street, Everton Ward
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0o/

1922 at 116 Wellington Road, Dingle Ward, are Thomas Berry, John Berry, 2 others
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0p/
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 12 November 18 17:17 GMT (UK)
Nearly forgot!
Two registers in 1921
That was Spring, and the Autumn one is also on there, shows no change.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0q/

But they don't have 1922?
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 17:24 GMT (UK)
Thank you .
Nearly forgot!
Two registers in 1921
That was Spring, and the Autumn one is also on there, shows no change.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n0q/

But they don't have 1922?
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 12 November 18 17:35 GMT (UK)
What about
Deaths, Dec 1921 West Derby 8b 387
Reid, William   
age 55   
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 17:46 GMT (UK)
Possible, wife remarried January  7th 1922

What about
Deaths, Dec 1921 West Derby 8b 387
Reid, William   
age 55
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 12 November 18 18:02 GMT (UK)
Possibly that 1921 death in West Derby district was in late or mid to late December, from cross referencing with a few other names.
Not always an exact science! But still, Elizabeth would have to be a fast worker if she remarried 7 January!
John
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 18:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks John
Possibly that 1921 death in West Derby district was in late or mid to late December, from cross referencing with a few other names.
Not always an exact science! But still, Elizabeth would have to be a fast worker if she remarried 7 January!
John
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 19:18 GMT (UK)
Got him on FindMyPast he died in Hoboken NJ  9 April 1920. Other details home adddress tie in exactly. Much easier when you have a date range. Thanks all for your suggestions. Now to find hist burial

Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 12 November 18 19:45 GMT (UK)
Well done!
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 19:51 GMT (UK)
Thanks great description on where he actually died and what he died of Lobar Pneumonia 

Well done!
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jonw65 on Monday 12 November 18 20:15 GMT (UK)
If he was at sea again, you might find some more records of him. Other than what you can find on FindMyPast, there's crew members listed on FamilySearch in the Ellis Island records.
For example (and I don't know if it's your man!)
William Reid on the Vestris, arriving NY 20.3.1919
This chap was 54, Irish, engaged at Liverpool. It says he has "Sailor on right arm" (I think they mean a tattoo!), I think your William had a sailor's head tattooed on his right arm (army record).
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J6QT-CNB

EDIT - yes it is your man? Your picture says "Vestris"
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 20:27 GMT (UK)
Yes that’s him J thanks. I wonder if he died after a later sailing. Presume that he wouldn’t be in port for that long. Unless he signed up for another ship and the went back to the Vestris. Interesting accounts of the Vestris sinking in 1928 with great Loss of life. Posted a message on a NJ forum to see if there is a burial for him
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Monday 12 November 18 22:07 GMT (UK)
Seems as if he arrived March 25 1920 on the Vestris

Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Wednesday 16 January 19 19:24 GMT (UK)
Hi jim1 if I could return to this. You mention about his widow living at 116 Wellington Road. Could you just run by me where her address is shown please?
Thanks

Nothing to indicate he died during WW1. On saying that his widow is applying for his medals in 1924. She refers to him as her late husband. This is after they had been returned for correction in 1923. It's possible he returned them but died before getting them back.
Her address at the time was 116 Wellington Rd. Park Rd. Dingle L'pool.
His Regts. were 1st. Garrison Battalion R.I.R. with whom he served in Gallipoli hence his 15 Star.
Then Lab. Corps, R.E. & finally Inland Waterways & Docks (R.E.).
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 17 January 19 12:44 GMT (UK)
It's on the back of his MIC.
It's quite rare to get this information regards Other Ranks.
Title: Re: William Reid
Post by: jksdelver on Thursday 17 January 19 13:28 GMT (UK)
Oh brilliant jim1 thanks for that information.
Strange how she listed a B (Betty perhaps?) Reid and not Elizabeth Berry as she was then. First time i have see her listed as ‘B’

Thanks again


It's on the back of his MIC.
It's quite rare to get this information regards Other Ranks.