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Title: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Russell48 on Sunday 11 November 18 22:56 GMT (UK)
I am looking for a possible relative by marriage.  My uncle William Hamilton Russell born Glasgow 1919 possibly married an Agnes Boyd Kerr from Paisley, date would be 1942.  I have no documentation but would hope someone recognizes the names.
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 11 November 18 23:18 GMT (UK)
Have you checked for a marriage on Scotlands People?  The index is showing one for those names in 1942.  You can buy credits and download a copy if you are looking for his/her parents details


www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Ann Baker on Monday 12 November 18 00:05 GMT (UK)
The marriage is on Scotland's People but you'll need to buy credits to view it

Ref is 573/1 463

WILLIAM HAMILTON RUSSELL
AGNES BOYD KERR
   
Married 1942 in Paisley
   

   
Hope that helps :)

Ann
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 12 November 18 04:42 GMT (UK)
Death 2007

RUSSELL AGNES BOYD 85 (b c1922)
CLARK (mms)
646/ 951 Paisley (Renfrew)

Birth

KERR AGNES BOYD 1922
573/1 1009 Paisley

Possible parents marriage?

KERR JOHN & CLARK MARY 1916
573/1 419
Paisley

All can be confirmed by the marriage suggested by Carole & Ann

Annie
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Russell48 on Monday 12 November 18 15:31 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the info on Scotlands People.  Only problem is that I don't know for sure if Agnes Kerr is the lady he married.  I know my uncle was in WW2, I have a photograph of him and his wife but not a name for her.  My family are mostly gone now, especially those who would know the history.  I checked on the records site and just put in a date when I thought he would have been married.  As my uncle was born in 1919 he would have been 20 in 1939.  I put a parameter down and Agnes Boyd Kerr came up married in 1942.  I don't have a death recorded for my uncle which makes this all the more difficult.  I was hoping someone from her side of the family may be on Rootschat and would spot my message.  Thank you again for your replies.
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: ITBookworm on Monday 12 November 18 17:37 GMT (UK)
The wedding record from Scotlands People will show both parents for William which should let you confirm that he is actually your uncle?
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Rosinish on Tuesday 13 November 18 03:22 GMT (UK)
The wedding record from Scotlands People will show both parents for William which should let you confirm that he is actually your uncle?

Precisely.

William Hamilton Russell born Glasgow 1919 possibly married an Agnes Boyd Kerr from Paisley, date would be 1942.  I have no documentation but would hope someone recognizes the names.

Who are his parents & what info. do you have for them in Scotland with dates please & ditto with siblings names/dates/places (born) as their births if born in Scotland will show both parents with marriage date & mothers' maiden name which would show on the marriage we've directed you to?

What is the reference to your uncles' age in 1939, was this from the English 1939 Register?

What were the names of any children your uncle had (in order of birth), do they correspond with the parents you have of William Hamilton Russell?

A purchase of credits for scotlandspeople.gov.uk is less than the price of a cert. bought in England/Ireland/Wales & will get you previous genuine records forbye.
Cheapest batch of credits £7.50 for 30 credits & any BMD or Census costs 6 credits but there are other records i.e. Valuation Rolls 2 credits & Wills 10 credits i.e. a lot for less than 1 English cert. & not forgetting Scottish BMDs give far more info. than any other UK certs.

Annie

Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: johncairns53 on Thursday 15 November 18 12:40 GMT (UK)
Hi  Re your Search  For William Hamilton  Russell  can  you tell me his Mums Maiden Name  so I can help further with your Search  Helen


Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Russell48 on Friday 16 November 18 11:26 GMT (UK)
My uncles mother's name was Margaret Hamilton, my grandfather was Robert Welsh Russell.  The marriage certificate to Agnes Kerr does not match my grandparents names unfortunately. 
William Hamilton Russell was born 1919 in Camlachie, Glasgow.  He was the youngest of the three brothers, one brother being my father.  William is the only one I can't trace.  He moved to Ireland for a few years with my grandmother then came back to Glasgow around 1931/32.  I know nothing of his life since that time.  All I have is a photograph of him and a lady, I presumed was his wife.  He may have remained single throughout his life, I really don't know.  I don't have a date for his death.  Not much help really, but I thank you all for your interest.  This us one ancestor I may never have the full story.
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: johncairns53 on Friday 16 November 18 20:24 GMT (UK)
Hi  William Hamliton Russell born 17 july1916 son of Robert Russell & Mary Barr Knox   he was married to agnes Boyd Kerr born 29 May 1922  Kerr\ Clark  both dec  death reg by Neice
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 19 November 18 04:27 GMT (UK)
Hi  William Hamliton Russell born 17 july1916 son of Robert Russell & Mary Barr Knox   he was married to agnes Boyd Kerr born 29 May 1922  Kerr\ Clark  both dec  death reg by Neice

I think it's been established this isn't the correct marriage as the parents of the groom don't match.

Russell48 knows who the parents of Robert Welsh Russell were i.e. his thoughts on that marriage are a red herring now.

Annie
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Rosinish on Monday 19 November 18 04:54 GMT (UK)
Could this be a possible (age a bit out) by 11 yrs but informant may not have known the correct age?

RUSSELL WILLIAM 82
HAMILTON (mms)
1989
711/ 74 Whitburn

Annie
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: johncairns53 on Sunday 25 November 18 08:33 GMT (UK)
Hi annie What was William Hamilton  Russell   Mum\dads Names to help further
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 29 November 18 23:20 GMT (UK)
Hi annie What was William Hamilton  Russell   Mum\dads Names to help further

Sorry but I don't have anymore access to this as it's from the index i.e. needs to be viewed for further info. on scotlandspeople.gov.uk via credits purchased as Scottish certs. aren't available anywhere else online.

Annie
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: johncairns53 on Sunday 02 December 18 19:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Annie  what info do you have on this William Hamilton Russell Helen
Title: Re: Tracing an ancestor from Paisley, Renfrewshire
Post by: Rosinish on Sunday 02 December 18 20:06 GMT (UK)
As stated previously, I only have the info. I posted from scotlandspeople index as a 'possible'?

Death

RUSSELL WILLIAM 82  (b c1907)
HAMILTON (mms) (mothers maiden surname)

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711/ 74 Whitburn

The informant of the above death (if he's the correct William Hamilton Russell) may not have known his exact age i.e. a guestimate which happens but worth checking if the mms is known to be Hamilton as Russell48 hasn't filled us in with the parental details for to make any kind of decision?

Edit, Yes Russell48 has (my apologies) I'd forgot since last on this thread the parental details given were Margaret Hamilton & Robert Welsh Russell hence the reason I thought it worth a look at.

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