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Title: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Designer Jeans on Tuesday 13 November 18 20:24 GMT (UK)
Does anyone have access to the 1841 Tithe Map for Clay Cross (Clay Lane) please?  I would dearly love a copy.
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Logwood on Thursday 04 April 19 03:31 BST (UK)
Hi,
Are you still looking for access to the Tithe Map for Clay Cross? I have a subscription to The Genealogist and can help you out with this.
Best,
Georgia
(I believe we are related via William Clarke and Sarah Freeman)
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Designer Jeans on Thursday 04 April 19 09:22 BST (UK)
Hi

That is a very kind offer thank you.  I will dig out my paperwork to check what I was looking for!

So, are you Uncle Frank's grand daughter who worked for the BBC about a hundred years ago? 

Valerie
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Logwood on Thursday 04 April 19 11:27 BST (UK)
Hi Valerie,

I am one of Frank Clarke’s 3 granddaughters, but none of us have worked for the BBC (as far as I know!).

Best,
Georgia
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Designer Jeans on Thursday 04 April 19 12:07 BST (UK)
Well, well, well...  I visited Uncle Frank about forty years ago and corresponded with him for a time.  I wonder whether I still have any of his letters?  Shame about the BBC.  Have you done any work on the Clarke/Freeman family tree?
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Designer Jeans on Monday 08 April 19 19:37 BST (UK)
Hi Georgia

Are you able to help pinpoint the following parcels of land and names associated with them please?

The Great Highfield, The Little Highfield, The Oxe Close, The Long Landes, The Thisley Dole, The Golding Flat, The Round Close, The Carr Cliffe, four little closes called The Carrs.

Lane Crofte, The Water Meadow, Nether Close.

Very many thanks
Valerie
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Logwood on Wednesday 10 April 19 15:03 BST (UK)
Hi,

Round Close, Ox Close, Car Cliff, and 2 Carrs (Wheat and Corn), plus a Highfield (there’s another one elsewhere in the area too, but no ‘Great’ or ‘Little’ specified) were owned by the executors of Thomas Hopkinson and occupied by Thomas Young.
In the Apportionment Book I found Thistley Closes, but no Thistley Dole, a Long Close but no Long Landes.
A Great and a Little Nether Close - owned by James Nuttall and occupied by Robert Hutchinson.
Water Meadow, owned by executors of William Webster and occupied by William Chambers.

Have sent you a link to more details.
Best,
Georgia

Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: spendlove on Thursday 11 April 19 19:50 BST (UK)
Hi

You do not say how you know of the names of these parcels of land, so hope I am not giving information to records you already know of.

The names you quote, with others, formed what was to become “Coldwell Farm” Clay Cross the history of the lands is given in Derbyshire Record Office Catalogue

https://calmview.derbyshire.gov.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=D3955

When this page opens you can click on the link at the botton which shows all the transactions from 1659 to 1895.

By 1841Tithe they were owned by Thomas Hopkinson, and quite possible not all the field names were listed.  Thomas died 1842, and his will should be on findmypast, sorry cannot check as site not working correctly this evening.

Spendlove
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Logwood on Friday 12 April 19 01:08 BST (UK)
Hi,
Valerie asked whether the names appeared in the 1841 Tithe Apportionment books/map (completed 1843), which is what I looked at for her - National Archives, Kew: IR 29/8/59 - available on The Genealogist.
Georgia
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: spendlove on Friday 12 April 19 19:46 BST (UK)
Hi Georgia

No disrespect intended, and appreciate that you found some of the field names listed in Tithe owned by Thomas Hopkinson.

Just giving additional information about the various pieces of land and their ownership which I thought would be interesting.

Spendlove
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Designer Jeans on Friday 12 April 19 20:13 BST (UK)
Thank you so much Georgia the information is exactly what I was after. 

Many thanks Spendlove for the other details.  I am descended from Matthew Hopkinson of Coldwell, who married Anne Fowke, daughter of Thomas of Holmgate.  Both families were Quakers.  Thomas emigrated to America and conveyed his land to Matthew and Matthew's son Thomas.

I am currently working on trying to establish Thomas Fowke's origins.
Title: Re: 1841 Tithe Map
Post by: Logwood on Friday 12 April 19 22:25 BST (UK)
Hi Spendlove,
Not at all. Great that you could add useful information to Valerie’s quest.
Best,
Georgia