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Title: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Wednesday 14 November 18 13:08 GMT (UK)
I was looking for help with the above. I have had a hint that they were in Sydney Australia, not sure when and I cannot find on any passenger lists. they got married 1918 and had children 1918, 1921 and 1924 all in Tynemouth reg area(suspect Blyth). Any ideas how I can find out if this is my Hansens?  Years ago I had a query regarding G Grandfather the above father also Christopher. Someone found that he worked on the dredger "Cowpen" on the river Blyth but there was a note that he left to go to Australia 8 Feb 1915. is there a mix up with father and son??? soooo confused.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 14 November 18 16:02 GMT (UK)
Have you tried looking for them on the 1939 register in case they are still in England
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: ColC on Wednesday 14 November 18 16:40 GMT (UK)


One tree suggests he died.

Birth:   03/1894 Blyth Northumberland England
Death:   27/07/1937 Blyth Northumberland England

There is a GRO index to support that.
Name:   Christopher Hansen
Death Age:   43
Birth Date:   abt 1894
Registration Date:   Sep 1937
Registration district:   Northumberland Central
Inferred County:   Northumberland
Volume:   10b
Page:   392

Colin
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 14 November 18 16:53 GMT (UK)
There is a report in the Morpeth Herald, 30 July 1937, page 9
 about an inquest for a Christopher Hansen, age 42, occupation boiler scaler, of 124 Plessey Road, Blyth. He died from injuries after being knocked down by a cyclist.


and a free search of the 1939 register shows an Elizabeth Hansen, born 1894, living in Blyth, plus one other closed record .

Boo
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 14 November 18 16:56 GMT (UK)
1911 census for Christopher jnr and his parents / siblings

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWM2-QGZ

ADDED Christopher senior appears to have died 1931
Deaths Jun qtr 1931   
Hansen    Christopher    age 75   
Tynemouth    10b   350
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Wednesday 14 November 18 17:02 GMT (UK)
Yes the report in Morpeth Herald is definitely about him and yes they were here on 1939 register. His children were born in Blyth 1918, 1921 and 1924 all in Blyth. It looks if it is them they did not stay there very long but I am intrigued as to what they did there etc.
His death was very sad and his brother died on the day of Christophers funeral so not a happy time for the rest of the family.
I seem to have all the other information except the bit about australia. Very puzzling.
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 14 November 18 18:24 GMT (UK)
Yes the report in Morpeth Herald is definitely about him

So I see from another thread
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=449174.msg6617171#msg6617171

which is current and makes the looking at records that I, and others did, superfluous. It really does help if you keep to one thread.

Boo
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Wednesday 14 November 18 21:43 GMT (UK)
I thought that as the other post was about his accident and this is about something different years before his accident it would need to be a new post.
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Wednesday 14 November 18 21:45 GMT (UK)
its all about the same man, ALL of the information you have for him is relevant as are previous searches to save duplicating effort.

Boo
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Thursday 15 November 18 16:21 GMT (UK)
Sorry!
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Thursday 15 November 18 16:23 GMT (UK)
Just wondering, would I maybe have a chance of information if it was put on Australian Board?
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 16 November 18 08:22 GMT (UK)
I was looking for help with the above. I have had a hint that they were in Sydney Australia, not sure when and I cannot find on any passenger lists.
Thanks.

Before you post anywhere else where did you get that 'hint' from and what information was given.

There is no point in posting elsewhere if we can prove they did not leave England.  We have already found a death for both Christophers in England
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Friday 16 November 18 16:29 GMT (UK)
The hint keeps popping up on an ancestry site. At first I ignored it but the Elizabeth Gair also showed and as he married an Elizabeth Gair it seemed too much of a coincidence. I have not been on this site or even looked at my tree for years I am revisiting my ancestors so to speak.
Barb.
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Friday 16 November 18 19:44 GMT (UK)
Just out of interest, what did this 'hint' say? Does it not give a link to a record?

Boo
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Saturday 17 November 18 12:21 GMT (UK)
There are one for each of them.

Hansen Christopher
Sydney, Australia Anglican parish Registers 1814-2011

name Christopher Hansen.

Same for Elizabeth Gair.

It is only viewable on world wide which I cannot afford to pay for.

Thanks, Barbara.
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 17 November 18 12:31 GMT (UK)
Ok, I have looked at that, its a marriage dated 1945, so I can't post the names of the bride and groom as they may still be living, but Christopher Hansen (deceased) an engineer and Elizabeth Gair are down as parents of the groom.


Will PM you

Boo

Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Saturday 17 November 18 12:36 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much. That answes my question perfectly. Sorry if I caused confusion with the two posts.

Barbara.
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 17 November 18 12:39 GMT (UK)
I can (I think) say that the groom's home address was given as Blyth, Northumberland :-)

Boo
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 17 November 18 12:47 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much. That answes my question perfectly. Sorry if I caused confusion with the two posts.

Barbara.

Its not just the confusion for people trying to help, if you tell us what you know then we are in a better position to help. If, for instance you'd said what and where the 'hint' was you could have had this info more or less straight away.
 I am not having a go at you, I know its sometimes difficult to decide how to phrase a query, I really am trying to help but its so much easier and quicker to help if we have a fuller picture.

Still the main thing is that once you get the PM I think you can be fairly certain that Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair didn't actually go to Australia :-)

Boo
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 17 November 18 12:58 GMT (UK)
I can (I think) say that the groom's home address was given as Blyth, Northumberland :-)

Boo

What year was it?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 17 November 18 13:02 GMT (UK)
1945
- see reply 15 :-)

Boo
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 17 November 18 13:05 GMT (UK)
jamjar, not sure if you were going to look, but given the groom's address of Blyth and the fact he was in the  Forces its quite possible that he was not on a standard passenger list

Boo
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 17 November 18 13:07 GMT (UK)
Could you PM me the names, please?

Jamjar
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 17 November 18 13:31 GMT (UK)
The female of that marriage, remarried in 1951.

Jamjar
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Tickettyboo on Saturday 17 November 18 13:33 GMT (UK)
in Australia or the UK?

Boo
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: Jamjar on Saturday 17 November 18 13:39 GMT (UK)
in Australia or the UK?

Boo

Sorry Boo, Sydney.

Jamjar

Added: 2nd husband, Richard Wellington MADDERN, buried 27-7-1987, with what appears to be his folks at Woronora Cemetery.

Her parents were cremated at Woronora: Wall Of Memories - Panel 11 - Gg - 0714/0715

There is a possible death for Christopher in 1986 listed with parents Christopher and Elizabeth, but the newspaper death notice doesn’t give his age, so can’t be sure.

Death and funeral notices: Type 25 in the little, white box:

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=lL5f5cZgq8MC&dat=19861128&printsec=frontpage&hl=en
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Saturday 17 November 18 17:53 GMT (UK)
Well, what can I say? Did not expect the help I have been given.

The Christopher who I was asking about is the son of the Christopher and Elizabeth I thought.
He was born in Blyth, Northumberland (not Glasgow as on marriage cert. A little white lie???) he was born last quarter of 1921 reg Tynemouth. The family had merchant navy connections right back to Hans Christian Hansen b 1856 in Norway my ggrandfather.
The address on marriage cert is quite close to the harbour and beach area of Blyth.
This Christopher was my mothers cousin but I had never heard of him either from my mum or my dad so will have to do a bit more talking to my one remaining uncle. I will let you know if I go further with them.

Well, thank you so much Tickettyboo and Jamjar you have both been sooooooo helpful.
Barbara.
Title: Re: Christopher Hansen and Elizabeth Gair from Blyth
Post by: emmadog on Tuesday 27 November 18 22:08 GMT (UK)
Hello again, I have been to our local library and have done a bit more digging. I searched for Gladys Irene Morgan and found a death notice Gladys Morgan b 1921 d Aug 1980. Cemetery is Field of Mars, East Ryde, Ryde City, NSW. Husband Christopher Hansen.
I think this is the correct notice for my Christophers wife.
Barbara.