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Title: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: RodEast on Saturday 17 November 18 13:48 GMT (UK)
I am seeking any information on the ancestors and any siblings of Anthony Feeney born 0n 24 August 1908 in West Derby Lancashire to William James Feeney and Ann? Coleman who were married in 1894.  I believe Williams parents to be Patrick Feeney and Elizabeth who may have been born in Ireland but beyond that I am having difficulties.  I have failed to find William and Ann on any census after 1894.  I have the information re Anthony's marriage and descendants but I am struggling with his ancestors. Any help appreciated.
Rod
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 17 November 18 15:02 GMT (UK)
Can you find Anthony in 1911 with parents and/or siblings?

You can check birth registrations for Feeney/Coleman 1894 onwards for possible siblings.

The 1894 marriage for William and Ann should reveal more about their fathers/occupations and witnesses may also be helpful  :)

Jun 1894 W Derby
8b 811
William Feeney
Ann Coleman
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 17 November 18 15:07 GMT (UK)
There are c28 Feeney births in W Derby between 1894-1911 so you would need to go through them and cross check the mothers maiden names to see if any are Coleman.
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 17 November 18 15:21 GMT (UK)
All these West Derby births have fathers name Feeney mothers name Coleman

Dec 1894 William Thomas
Mar 1896 Margaret
Mar 1897 Mary Ann
Mar 1899 Ellen
Jun 1902 Patrick
Sep 1904 Ann
Sep 1906 Catherine
Dec 1908 Anthony
Jun 1911 George Edward
Mar 1914 Laurence

Plenty to look for there!  I wonder too if the name could be spelled with a Ph at times?  Pheeney as well as Feeney.
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 17 November 18 15:30 GMT (UK)
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I have the information re Anthony's marriage and descendants

What does he put on his marriage - fathers occupation, witnesses, abode, is father marked as deceased
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: RodEast on Saturday 17 November 18 17:48 GMT (UK)
On the marriage of Anthony his father William's occupation is Marine Fireman and be is described as deceased having died in the December quarter 1907.  I can't find another marriage in England of Feeney (or Pheeney) to Coleman so those between 1894 and 1908 are possible but the later 2 are not.  The other possibility is that it is another family from Ireland.  As yet I do not have the marriage certificate off William.  However, I cannot find any sign of William, Ann or Anthony on any census after 1894.The witnesses on Anthony's marriage certificate are Samuel James Edward Quilliam (his wife's maiden name) and Hannah Whittaker so there does not seem to be a clue there.
Rod
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: heywood on Saturday 17 November 18 18:06 GMT (UK)
Are you saying that the date of William’s death is 1907 and shown on the marriage certificate?
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: RodEast on Saturday 17 November 18 19:01 GMT (UK)
No.  On Anthony's birth certificate  has him stated as deceased and by the laws of nature he must have died within 9 months of the birth.  His death entrance is given as 4th qtr 1907 West Derby 8B 288.
Rod
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: heywood on Saturday 17 November 18 19:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks Rod.
I have seen it now. Free BMD has the wrong age.
What is the address on Anthony’s birth certificate?
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: heywood on Saturday 17 November 18 20:15 GMT (UK)
Liverpool crew lists has these records:

1907
William Feeney 35 yrs
6 Braznose Road (Brasenose?)
 Empress of Britain promoted to Leading Fireman May 1907
Discharged 8th June 1907

William Feeney 34 yrs
1 Mulyneux Street (Molyneux)
Empress of Britain  Leading Fireman
Discharged 6th July 1907

William Feeney 27 yrs
214 Derby Road
Lucania - Last served Westernland
This has been transcribed as 1907 but I think it is 1901

The first two are consecutive records but two addresses  ???
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: heywood on Saturday 17 November 18 20:59 GMT (UK)
William J Feeney burial 3rd January 1908 address 2 Molyneux Street.
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: lancsann on Saturday 17 November 18 22:00 GMT (UK)
William J Feeney burial 3rd January 1908 address 2 Molyneux Street.

is that the same address as on Anthony's birth certificate?

I assume his father is named on there as William James - his marriage only names him as William
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: RodEast on Sunday 18 November 18 09:09 GMT (UK)
His father is named as William James on the birth certificate and the address given which is where presumably his mother Ann lived is 37 Lyons Street.
Rod
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: RodEast on Sunday 18 November 18 11:38 GMT (UK)
My eyesight isn't good and I find it difficult to read the crew lists.  Where can I find the transcripts if they exist?
Rod
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: heywood on Sunday 18 November 18 13:02 GMT (UK)
I got the information re the crew lists  on Ancestry, if that is what you mean.
Title: Re: Anthony Feeney 1908 - 1978
Post by: heywood on Sunday 18 November 18 13:10 GMT (UK)
All addresses seem to be in the same area - Derby Road.

In 1911 Lyons  Street May be recorded as Beresford Street but no sign of Ann at 37.