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Title: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: Peety on Saturday 17 November 18 16:53 GMT (UK)
Robert Wilkinson was born circa 1822. In the 1851 census he was living at 138, Edgmond, Shropshire, birthplace given as Drayton, Shropshire. Living with his wife Ann aged 27 and four children Sarah 8, Mary 6, George 4 and Jane 1.
 In the 1861 census he was living with his wife Ann aged 38 and children George 14, Joseph 9, Eliza 5 and Harriet? 2 at 115 Edgmond, Shropshire however his birthplace is given as Edinburgh, Scotland??
He probably married his wife Ann Pruden on 11th December 1843, a Edgmond.??
I have quite a detailed newspaper report of his death on 10th November 1863,caused by excessive drinking of brandy and referring to him as a discharged soldier??
My questions are: where is he in the 1841 census, Shropshire, Scotland or elsewhere?
                           Why the differences in birthplace?
                           Can anyone shed any light on a military career
Many thanks
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 17 November 18 17:00 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat  :)

The 2 yr old in 1861 is indeed Harriet - baptised 15 May 1859 at Edgmond.
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: avm228 on Saturday 17 November 18 17:05 GMT (UK)
The last child of the marriage, born after her father’s death:

Elizabeth Wilkinson, mother’s maiden name Pruden, birth reg Sep qtr 1864 Newport.

Baptised at Edgmond 7 Aug 1864, daughter of Robert & Ann.

Death registered Jun qtr 1866 Newport, aged 1.
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 17 November 18 17:12 GMT (UK)
Welcome to rootschat

The marriage certificate would give an occupation for him and hopefully details of his 'abode' and his father
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: Milliepede on Saturday 17 November 18 21:36 GMT (UK)
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He probably married his wife Ann Pruden on 11th December 1843, a Edgmond.??

For info marriage is registered under the name

Robert Whilkson

England select marriages have it as

Robert Whilkem
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 17 November 18 22:40 GMT (UK)
5/2/1823 Ann Pruden bapt Edgmond parents William and Ann

On 1841 census in Edgmond Femail servant aged 15.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: Peety on Sunday 18 November 18 08:13 GMT (UK)
Wow! Very impressive site I can't believe how quickly and how many responses there have been.
Many thanks to everyone
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: Peety on Sunday 18 November 18 11:20 GMT (UK)
In reply to AVM228 regarding Elizabeth Wilkinson 1864- 1866, I found birth and death registration but is the name unlikely bearing in mind she had a sister Eliza born 1856?
Many thanks
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: avm228 on Sunday 18 November 18 11:42 GMT (UK)
In reply to AVM228 regarding Elizabeth Wilkinson 1864- 1866, I found birth and death registration but is the name unlikely bearing in mind she had a sister Eliza born 1856?
Many thanks

Not really.  People often treated them as completely separate names.  Relatives of mine were so unimaginative that they named consecutive daughters Elizabeth and Eliza, less than 2 yrs apart (both survived).
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: Peety on Saturday 24 November 18 17:38 GMT (UK)
Rosie99 I have obtained marriage certificate: married 11th December 1843 in the parish of Edgmond. Robert's surname is spelt "Whilkson" described as a labourer , resident in Edgmond at the time of marriage. So any military career would have been between c. 1837 (when aged 16) and 1843 when he was married and described as a labourer, or between 1843 and 1851 census when again described as a labourer??
Roberts father is stated as George Whilkson and a stone mason.
I don't however seem any further forward, any ideas where to go from here please??
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 24 November 18 17:42 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the marriage details, who were the witnesses
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: Peety on Saturday 24 November 18 17:56 GMT (UK)
Have included photo as names somewhat difficult to decipher
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 24 November 18 18:05 GMT (UK)
Richard ....  It is a bit of a mess  ::)  (Marshstone  :-\ )

Eliza Hamlet  :-\
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: Peety on Saturday 24 November 18 19:04 GMT (UK)
Found Eliza Hamlet aged 15 living in Edgmond very close to the Pruden family (Roberts wife family) in the 1841 census and Richard Moulstone living in Edgmond in the 1851 census?
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: CarolA3 on Sunday 25 November 18 08:14 GMT (UK)
Found Eliza Hamlet aged 15 living in Edgmond very close to the Pruden family (Roberts wife family) in the 1841 census and Richard Moulstone living in Edgmond in the 1851 census?

Peety, those are the two names I was about to post without looking at the census :)

Carol
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: Peety on Sunday 25 November 18 08:37 GMT (UK)
Thank you CarolA3 and rosie99,
Unfortunately I seem no further forward. I seemed to have trawled through a lot of the 1841 census looking for George Wilkinson but to no avail. I actually don't have Robert Wilkinson on the 1841 census either  ???
Title: Re: Robert Wilkinson Edgmond Shropshire
Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 25 November 18 12:05 GMT (UK)
The two witnesses both marry in Newport 1850.

GRO gives mothers MMN for Moulstone as George.

Marriage Emma George

Jennifer