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Title: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: Treefan on Sunday 18 November 18 14:51 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth Haycock was born in Birmingham, England in 1878, the youngest daughter of Samuel Haycock & Eliza Steventon.
The Haycock family must have fallen on hard times resulting in the four youngest children becoming Middlemore Home Children. Benjamin & Samuel were sent to Ontario in 1881 travelling on The Parisian. Brother John sailed on the Polynesian to Ontario in 1882 & cousin William Henry Haycock sailed on the Carthaginian to Nova Scotia in 1907.
Elizabeth Haycock sailed on The Lake Ontario to Ontario in 1887.
I have been able to discover what became of brothers Benjamin, Samuel & John in Ontario but have no idea what became of Elizabeth. If anyone can help at all I would be most grateful.
Also, should anyone know what became of William Henry Haycock after his arrival in Nova Scotia in 1907 I would be most interested too.
With many thanks.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 15:10 GMT (UK)
What year was William Henry Haycock born ? Did he arrive on the Carthaginian (anc spelling) I have the answer to these two questions now -


Have you listed these children on the Home Children pages on RootsChat ? Having checked I can see they are listed

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 15:13 GMT (UK)
A possible................(if the birth year is right  ???)

1911 census Cumberland Nova Scotia.

William Haycock born 1896 England - domestic - imm 1907

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e001968376.jpg

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 15:17 GMT (UK)

Have you managed to find obituaries for Benjamin and John ?

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 15:27 GMT (UK)


I'll pop some info on Benjamin Haycock -Run Kitty is the obituary expert - if she finds anything it might give us a clue to the whereabouts of the others.

FIND A GRAVE

Benjamin Haycock - 1 February 1871 - passed away 27 September 1945

Hutcheson Memorial Cemetery Huntsville, Muskoka District Municipality, Ontario.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/144520535

spouse Elizabeth Wilder - 1897 - 1985

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/144520477/eliza-may-haycock

Links to a couple of children of this couple as well.

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 18 November 18 15:36 GMT (UK)
Wonder if this is Samuel, wife Annie, daughter Bessie May... in Elgin in 1911. 
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=139509

Samuel born 1871

Fairview Dutton Cemetery in Elgin - shows his name on the stone with his wife.  Birth year is 1869 here.  No death date though. 

 http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1683809

RK
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: Treefan on Sunday 18 November 18 15:48 GMT (UK)
A possible................(if the birth year is right  ???)

1911 census Cumberland Nova Scotia.

William Haycock born 1896 England - domestic - imm 1907

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/jpg/e001968376.jpg

Sandra
Very interesting. Thank you so much.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 18 November 18 15:52 GMT (UK)
Benjamin Haycock obituary...very hard to read at first, but then it comes in to focus.  Give it a little time :).   No mention of sister Elizabeth.   Does mention that he is survived by brothers Samuel, John and William.

http://www.communitydigitalarchives.com/huntsville-forester/1945-10-04/1/newspapers.html#

RK
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: Treefan on Sunday 18 November 18 15:56 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Sandra & Run Kitty, I am very grateful.
The census for William in Nova Scotia is the first info on him in Canada which is great. I am so pleased.
The other of your findings match with my own findings for the lads and I know what became of them.
It is Elizabeth who is my brick wall and I haven't been able to spot any info on her at all following her ships travel record. Hopefully, something might be found one day so that I can learn what became of her.
Thank you both for your kind help.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 18 November 18 15:59 GMT (UK)
Benjamin's obit from 1945 says brother William is living in Birmingham England. 

I don't think you posted his birth year ... but there are several possibilities on Free BMD for deaths of William Haycocks in Birmingham post 1945.

RK
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 16:03 GMT (UK)
Benjamin's obit from 1945 says brother William is living in Birmingham England. 

I don't think you posted his birth year ... but there are several possibilities on Free BMD for deaths of William Haycocks in Birmingham post 1945.

RK

1896  RK - Hmm think I spotted something of interest in Birmingham.

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 16:04 GMT (UK)
Samuel Haycock married Annie Schram - 31 Oct 1899 Elgin Ontario.
Father Samuel and Elizbeth Haycock

On Canada Voters List 1935 Samuel and Elizabeth Haycock and Samuel Haycock retired in 1945 - no Elizabeth on the 1945

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 18 November 18 16:18 GMT (UK)
Headstone says Annie died in 1940, but there is no death date for Samuel.  I wonder if he moved/remarried.

If we knew when and where he died - perhaps his obit could be found?   
RK
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: Treefan on Sunday 18 November 18 16:20 GMT (UK)
Benjamin Haycock obituary...very hard to read at first, but then it comes in to focus.  Give it a little time :).   No mention of sister Elizabeth.   Does mention that he is survived by brothers Samuel, John and William.

http://www.communitydigitalarchives.com/huntsville-forester/1945-10-04/1/newspapers.html#

RK
That is so interesting. I believe that Benjamin had 11 siblings and i am presently awaiting to receive birth & death certificates which I have ordered to confirm the details.
When Benjamin passed away the brothers mentioned as being his family members who had outlived him are the only ones known to me as then still being alive and it is correct that his older brother William who was born & always lived in Birmingham was one of them. So, this proves that he kept up contact with his family in Birmingham to know this. Interesting.
I am puzzled at present as to the reason why the youngest four children became Home Children ~ the older siblings had either passed away or had married so I wonder why their parents had to give them up? I know that their parents hadn't passed away as although I have not been able to find their 1891 census they appeared alive and well in the 1901 census.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 16:22 GMT (UK)
Headstone says Annie died in 1940, but there is no death date for Samuel.  I wonder if he moved/remarried.

If we knew when and where he died - perhaps his obit could be found?   
RK

Do we know where she might be buried RK.  Well done on Benjamin obit.

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: Treefan on Sunday 18 November 18 16:24 GMT (UK)


1896  RK - Hmm think I spotted something of interest in Birmingham.

Sandra
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I am intrigued now what you have found? I have been searching the records but could it be that fresh eyes have spotted something that I have overlooked?
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 16:28 GMT (UK)
William Haycock - 9 October 1897 - passed away June 1975 - Birmingham -    32 - Page 0983
Might have had a wife Florence  (12 January 1894) ???
Florence passed away March 1981 - Birmingham - vol 32 - 1860
IF it was correct a William Haycock married Florence Truran - Kings Norton Warwickshire - 6d 252  ???
One to prove or disprove  ;)

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: Treefan on Sunday 18 November 18 16:35 GMT (UK)
William Haycock - 9 October 1897 - passed away June 1975 - Birmingham -    32 - Page 0983
Might have had a wife Florence  (12 January 1894) ???
Florence passed away March 1981 - Birmingham - vol 32 - 1860
IF it was correct a William Haycock married Florence Truran - Kings Norton Warwickshire - 6d 252  ???
One to prove or disprove  ;)

Sandra
Brother William was born in Birmingham in 1863. He married Kate Griffin in 1896 and they went on to have a son named William Henry Haycock who was the young lad who became a Home Child who was sent out to Nova Scotia in 1907.
Benjamin's brother William passed away in Birmingham in 1947.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 18 November 18 16:36 GMT (UK)
Headstone says Annie died in 1940, but there is no death date for Samuel.  I wonder if he moved/remarried.

If we knew when and where he died - perhaps his obit could be found?   
RK

Do we know where she might be buried RK.  Well done on Benjamin obit.

Sandra

Yes - reply 5 has the cemetery and link to photo of stone.  Fairview Dutton cemetery in Elgin :)

RK
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 16:41 GMT (UK)
Oh right - thought it was a brother  ::) Ref reply 17

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 16:45 GMT (UK)
Headstone says Annie died in 1940, but there is no death date for Samuel.  I wonder if he moved/remarried.

If we knew when and where he died - perhaps his obit could be found?   
RK

Do we know where she might be buried RK.  Well done on Benjamin obit.

Sandra

Yes - reply 5 has the cemetery and link to photo of stone.  Fairview Dutton cemetery in Elgin :)

RK

Oops not paying attention RK - thank you ..............lack of Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 18 November 18 16:49 GMT (UK)
Looks like John died in Grey county in 1949.

http://geneofun.on.ca/names/photo/1138248

Greenwood cemetery is in Owen Sound.  I wonder if their library could provide an obituary?

RK

Not to worry Sandra.  :) :) :)

Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: Treefan on Sunday 18 November 18 16:53 GMT (UK)
You two are just wonderful!  :)
Thank you both so much.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 18 November 18 17:04 GMT (UK)
You are welcome :)

Were you able to find brother William's obit in Birmingham?  Perhaps it would mention his siblings (Elizabeth in particular).   

RK
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: Treefan on Sunday 18 November 18 17:09 GMT (UK)
Sadly not. More affluent folk always placed births, deaths & marriage notices in newspapers but the Birmingham Haycock's don't seem to have been wealthy enough to be able to afford the extra expense.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 18 November 18 17:42 GMT (UK)
Here is a very outside possibility for William Henry...

1921 Canadian census has a William Henry Haycock, age 24, in Winnipeg.  He is a boiler maker.  He was born in England.  It says immigration in 1912 (not right...but maybe the year he went to Manitoba???).  He is with a Mary Haycock.   Hard to read their relationship.   (see bottom of the page)

http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002892223

Winnipeg Free Press has a very short obit - William Haycock, aged 59, died in Winnipeg on Oct 30, 1956.  He had worked as a boiler maker for the CPR (railway) for 36 years.  He is survived by wife Selma.  Burial Brookside Cemetery.   No children or siblings mentioned. 

Brookside Cemetery has a Mary Gertrude Haycock who died in 1948, but she was 87 (according to the Manitoba Vital Statistics Index).  No idea what happened to Selma.

The name and age are right, but it is just a guess ??? ???

RK

 
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: Treefan on Sunday 18 November 18 17:46 GMT (UK)
Once again, many thanks. That's another one that I hadn't spotted
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 17:48 GMT (UK)
One I pondered as well RK - if only it had said "native of......" but that would be to easy  ;)

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: *Sandra* on Sunday 18 November 18 18:32 GMT (UK)
Canad Voters List 1935 - William Haycock - boilermaker - Mrs William Haycock married woman.

Canada Voters List 1940 - William Haycock - boiler maker - Mrs William Haydock.

Canada Voters List 1954 - 371 Cumberland Avenue Winnipeg Manitoba  - William Haycock - Boilermaker -
also listed below him is a Godfrey Jack (tin smith) and then Selma Munson - Housewife, Tom Russell, labourer and Gilmore Munson - warehouseman.

Sandra
Title: Re: Elizabeth Haycock
Post by: RunKitty on Sunday 18 November 18 18:51 GMT (UK)
Interesting..

Here he is in 1955... Wm H Haycock (Selma) at 371 Cumberland
http://peel.library.ualberta.ca/bibliography/921.4.36/610.html?qid=peelbib%7Chaycock%7C%7Cscore

RK

looked in the Henderson Directories for a few surrounding years...1955 is the only one where Selma is mentioned.  Other years, he is just William H Haycock, no other name in parentheses.