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Title: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: ibbotson on Monday 19 November 18 23:24 GMT (UK)
Eugenie Bruce-green, b 1921 is on a register along with Minnie Mansell and others. Could anyone please assist with details.
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 19 November 18 23:25 GMT (UK)
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Eugenie Bruce-green, b 1921 is on a register

What register?
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: ibbotson on Monday 19 November 18 23:31 GMT (UK)
Not sure if I can say, but 193?
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: heywood on Monday 19 November 18 23:49 GMT (UK)
If you have seen it, you can mention it. :)

The transcription on Ancestry is very poor and difficult search. FindMyPast might be different.

Eugenia appears several times in Electorall registers.
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 20 November 18 00:02 GMT (UK)
The 1939 register indexed as Bauce Green and Minnie Munsell

Probably lodgings as none of the other names seem to have any relation to each other
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: ibbotson on Tuesday 20 November 18 00:23 GMT (UK)
It does seem strange that she is shown as Bruce-green becouse she did not marry Norman Bruce-green until 1942 in Newcastle. She was a Mansell and I believe Minnie was her mother, (maiden name Cohen?) I now see there seems to be a Silvan Mansell, b, 1907 on the 1939 with her.
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: Bookbox on Tuesday 20 November 18 00:49 GMT (UK)
The register was updated with changes of surname etc. up to 1991.
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: ibbotson on Tuesday 20 November 18 01:01 GMT (UK)
OK thank you, understand now.
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 20 November 18 01:05 GMT (UK)
I suspect Silvan (b 19 Dec 1907, d Mar qtr 1970 Worthing) started life as Silvan Mandel in East London, son of Albert Isaac Mandel & Minnie - birth reg Mar qtr 1908 St George East, mother’s maiden name Cohen.

Both parents appear to have been born in Romania, as was their eldest child - suggesting they probably also married there.

Perhaps in due course the family’s surname Mandel was changed to Mansell in order to assimilate?
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 20 November 18 01:28 GMT (UK)
The first of the Mandel children to be registered in London seems to be Lizzie:

Lizzie Mandel, mother’s maiden name Cohen, Sep qtr 1902 Whitechapel 1c 244.
Title: Re: Eugenie Bruce-green
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 20 November 18 01:31 GMT (UK)
Naturalisation records (1905) for Albert Isaac Mandel:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4148317

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C11891258