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Title: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: Jayandjay on Wednesday 21 November 18 09:35 GMT (UK)
Eliza Pepper was born 1863 and died 1927.  I believe she was my maternal great grandmother.  My grandmother Lilian Fifield was her daughter and I am trying to find any siblings she may have had.
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 21 November 18 09:41 GMT (UK)
When and where was Lilian born? Is Fifield her maiden name?
Have you her birth certificate? What are the details on it.
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: Jayandjay on Wednesday 21 November 18 09:45 GMT (UK)
Lilian was born in 1893 and died in 1962 Fifield was her mainden name and she married Ernest Lewis Furze
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 21 November 18 09:45 GMT (UK)
Duplicate post here:

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=804010.0;topicseen#msg6621600
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 21 November 18 09:46 GMT (UK)
Marriages Sep 1884   (>99%)
Fifield    Thomas Edward        Poplar    1c   1062     Scan available - click to view
Pepper    Eliza Jane        Poplar    1c   1062     Scan available - click to view


https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl?start=1884&end=1884&sq=3&eq=3&type=Marriages&vol=1c&pgno=1062&db=bmd_1540252581&jsexec=1&mono=0&v=MTU0Mjc5MzQ3Mjo1NDBkOTg2OTU1NGU3MGJmZDEwYjg2ODIyMjhlNmE1MjAxZWM3ZDZi&searchdef=db%3Dbmd_1540252581%26sq%3D1%26type%3DMarriages%26eq%3D4%26s_surname%3DFifield%26surname%3DPepper&action=Find
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: Jayandjay on Wednesday 21 November 18 09:47 GMT (UK)
Sorry about duplicate post, tried to delete one as I thought it was in the wrong area
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 21 November 18 09:50 GMT (UK)
1891 census on Family Search

James Place, Poplar

Tomas Fifield   Head   Male   38   England
Eliza Fifield   Wife   Female   34   London, England
Edwin Fifield   Son   Male   5   London, England
Jane Fifield   Daughter   Female   2   London, England
Emma Fifield   Daughter   Female   0   London, England


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QMN2-22M
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 21 November 18 09:54 GMT (UK)

1901
Same address

Eliza Fifield   Head   Female   32   Poplar, London
Jane Fifield   Daughter   Female   12   Poplar
Emma Fifield   Daughter   Female   10   Poplar
Eliza Fifield   Daughter   Female   8   Poplar
Lily Fifield   Daughter   Female   7   Poplar
Louie Fifield   Daughter   Female   5   Poplar
Thomas Fifield   Son   Male   2   Popla

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X945-MGX
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: mckha489 on Wednesday 21 November 18 09:56 GMT (UK)
1911

Eliza Fifield   Head   Female   44   Poplar, London
Jane Fifield   Daughter   Female   22   Poplar, London
Emma Fifield   Daughter   Female   20   Poplar, London
Eliza Fifield   Daughter   Female   18   Poplar, London
Lily Fifield   Daughter   Female   17   Poplar, London
Louisa Fifield   Daughter   Female   15   Poplar, London
Tamas Fifield   Son   Male   13   Poplar, London

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPX-SF4
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 21 November 18 10:21 GMT (UK)
Eliza’s death:

Deaths Jun 1927 Poplar 1c 343
FIFIELD Eliza J 60

Jamjar
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 21 November 18 10:44 GMT (UK)
FIFIELD, THOMAS  EDWIN mmn PEPPER
GRO Reference: 1898  J Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 655

FIFIELD, LOUISA  ADA mmn PEPPER
GRO Reference: 1896  J Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 675

FIFIELD, LILIAN  FLORENCE mmn PEPPER
GRO Reference: 1893  D Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 633

FIFIELD, ELIZA  JANE mmn PEPPER
GRO Reference: 1892  J Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 687

FIFIELD, EMMA  LILIAN mmn PEPPER
GRO Reference: 1890  S Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 664

FIFIELD, JANE  ELIZA mmn PEPPER
GRO Reference: 1889  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 703

FIFIELD, EDWIN  THOMAS mmn PEPPER
GRO Reference: 1886  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 681


Could this be the death of Edwin Thomas?:

Deaths Dec 1892
FYFIELD Edwin Thomas 6 Edmonton 3a 218

Where is father Thomas in 1911?

Marriages:

Mar 1914 Poplar 1c 691
FIFIELD Emma L   
SCHWENK Ernest L

Jun 1916 Poplar 1c 892
FIFIELD Louisa A   
HIND (something wrong with FreeBMD page)

Dec 1919 Poplar 1c 1015
FIFIELD Eliza J
WETTON William E

Deaths:

Dec 1961 Poplar 5d 264
WETTON Eliza J 69

Maybe:

Sep 1976 Stepney 15 270
WETTON William Edwin 23 MAY 1893

Jamjar


Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 21 November 18 11:31 GMT (UK)
Marriage is on Anc, her Father was RICHARD Pepper, occp Sail Maker.

1881 Census
Richard Pepper, 37, Sail Maker, born Poplar
Jane Pepper, 35
Richard Pepper, 19
Sarah Pepper, 16
Eliza Pepper, 14
Jane Pepper, 9
Phillip Pepper, 7
Justina Pepper, 3
Alice Pepper, 9 mths

Trish :)
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 21 November 18 11:44 GMT (UK)
Birth Reg GRO;

PEPPER, JUSTINA, Mothers maiden name SPRING***
GRO Reference: 1878  M Quarter in POPLAR  Volume 01C  Page 736

Marriage Reg FreeBMD Dec 1861, Richard Pepper/Jane Spring on same page.

Marriage is on Anc.
James Father REDSHAW Spring, Police Constable, Richards THOMAS Pepper, Blacksmith

1871 we have;
Richard Pepper   28
June Pepper   27
Richard Pepper   9
Lulia Pepper   7
Eliza Pepper   6
Sarah Pepper   4
James Pepper   1


1891 Census Richard/Jane have 2 more children;
Maud 1883
May 1887
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 21 November 18 11:47 GMT (UK)
So 5 children by 1871.

James age 1 in 1871 may have died as does not appear in 1881 Census.
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: trish1120 on Wednesday 21 November 18 11:51 GMT (UK)
Sorry got confused as it was Lilian Fifields siblings you wanted :-[
Title: Re: Eliza Jane Pepper
Post by: candrjm on Wednesday 21 November 18 12:37 GMT (UK)
Jamjar,

Quote

Jun 1916 Poplar 1c 892
FIFIELD Louisa A   
HIND (something wrong with FreeBMD page)


looks like she married Sidney (the number 8 is missing from the page number)

Marriages Jun 1916   
Hind    Sidney G    Fifield    Poplar    1c   _92

Chris