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Title: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Susan Smith on Thursday 22 November 18 07:29 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find Adam Smith and family prior to 1881 census his wife is Jane (Jenty) Daughter Emily,  his father may be Adam also,  he resided in the Chertsey, Surrey area in 1881, 1891, 1901.

Sue
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 22 November 18 08:58 GMT (UK)
Later census gives place of birth as Henley on Thames (ADDED also Wolvercote).  It helps us if you give more information from the census that you have including references.

Where and when did he marry and what information is given on the certificate
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Susan Smith on Thursday 22 November 18 09:11 GMT (UK)
Yes,  Henley on Thames is correct,  1891 piece 552 Folio 112,  1901, piece 592 folio 44 page 32.   1881 piece 783 folio 17 page 28.

Hope the above helps I am looking fo Adam prior to 1881
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: ColC on Thursday 22 November 18 11:38 GMT (UK)
Adam Smith   Baptism 3 Mar 1844   Pishill   Adam & Emma (travelling tinkers)

"PISHILL, (or Cuss-hill), a parish in the hundred of Pirton, county Oxford, 6 miles N.W. of Henley-on-Thames,
This might explain why he was not on earlier census returns?

No trace of marriage: Adam died 1906 age given as 68.

Is this Jane I wonder Gantilla Smith born about 1832 died Apr 1906 Chertsey, Surrey

You may already know the following but it will help others.

Emily Smith
Birth 18 Aug 1873
Baptism 28 Sep 1873
Woking, St Peter, Surrey,
Father Adam Smith
Mother: Gentella Smith

1881   Age
Adam Smith    40
Jane Smith    42
Emily Smith    8

1891   Age   
Adam Smith    52   Ag lab
Jane Smith    53   Born Frimley, Surrey
Emily Atkins    18   Daughter
Charles Atkins    31   Son in law
Emma Chandler    9   Neice

1901 - Addlestone, Chertsey, Surrey   Age
Adam Smith    64
Jenty Smith    65
Emma Chandler    19

Colin





Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Susan Smith on Thursday 22 November 18 11:49 GMT (UK)
Thank you Colin so mum name may be incorrect.  What i need to find is Adam further back as want to see what other family members there were as trying to link with my tree and a dna match,  thx so much. Sue
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: ColC on Thursday 22 November 18 11:58 GMT (UK)
I think this is Jane.

Genty Green Baptism 20 Dec 1840 Frimley, St Peter, Surrey, Parents Thomas & Kezia (Travellers).

Colin
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: ColC on Thursday 22 November 18 12:13 GMT (UK)
As far as I can see the baptism records for Adam was the only one for Adam & Emma and the same for Genty/Jane. Note they might have been born earlier than the baptism date.

Colin
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Susan Smith on Thursday 22 November 18 12:24 GMT (UK)
Thx Colin I have ordered Bitth cert go Adam,  hoping it’s the right one Mums surname Jeffs first name Emma.  Sue
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Susan Smith on Thursday 22 November 18 17:30 GMT (UK)
Just cannot find any earlier censuses with the family on.
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: HarryW on Friday 23 November 18 09:42 GMT (UK)
Thx Colin I have ordered Bitth cert go Adam,  hoping it’s the right one Mums surname Jeffs first name Emma.  Sue

If you go onto the GRO site, there are quite a lot of SMITH/JEFFS births 1844 +/- 10, I suspect there could be at least two families.   You'll need to spend some time listing and unravelling them.
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 23 November 18 14:03 GMT (UK)
Thx Colin I have ordered Bitth cert go Adam,  hoping it’s the right one Mums surname Jeffs first name Emma.  Sue

Which certificate have you ordered
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Susan Smith on Friday 23 November 18 16:48 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie, Adam Smiths
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 23 November 18 19:55 GMT (UK)
Jane/Jenty on 1871 1861?

In a tent in Binfield, Hants. All b Hampshire

Thomas Green    45 - ag lab
Jemima Green    41
Jentilla Green    21
Moses Green    17
Aaron Green    12
Frederick Green    8
Mary Green    6
Henry Green    1
George Archer    24

RG 9, 755, 56, 21
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Susan Smith on Friday 23 November 18 20:17 GMT (UK)
Thank you Mabel,  appreciated.
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 23 November 18 20:27 GMT (UK)
I've found Thomas on 1871 with children Mary Ann, Henry and Abnead b c1865 "in a field" in Winkfield. Born Frimley, Farnham, Chertsey and Winkfield respectively. Thomas says he's still married

Ref RG10, 1295, 87, 6
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Susan Smith on Friday 23 November 18 20:32 GMT (UK)
Thank you Mabel,  so travellers,  I cannot find Adam prior to1881, must be somewhere
Title: Re: Adam Smith b 1839 Oxfordshire
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Friday 23 November 18 20:43 GMT (UK)
I suspect Adam may have a similar background. Have you tried the travelling people board here - there's quite a lot of information been collated of the various families which may be of help