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I have managed to find this information regarding my ancestors Gordons and Stewart:
Northern Irish Gravestone Inscriptions
Surname(s) Graveyard Civil Parish Graveyard Location County
GORDON, STEWART Muckamore Muckamore, Grange of Muckamore Antrim
Gravestone Inscription Erected by Alexander Gordon, Belfast, in memory of his beloved wife Maria Stewart, who died on the 2nd January 1884, aged 52 years, his daughter Maggie, died 2nd July 1864, aged 4 years, his son John, died 29th December 1867, aged 16 years, also his father John Gordon, died 19th December 1859, aged 54 years, also his mother Margaret Gordon, died 15th March 1880, aged 70 years,
Comment [Sandstone Headstone],[ MARIA STEWART, 2nd January 1884, No Will, JOHN GORDON, 19th December 1859, No Will, MARGARET GORDON, 15th March 1880, No Will]
Here is my brick wall. My great grandfather was John Gordon who died in 1907 in Everton Street Belfast. His brother Samuel was present at death and I have verified the relationship between Samuel, David and several more of Maria Stewart and Alexander Gordons children. If my great grandfather's older brother John died in 1867 in Carnmoney, my John must have been born after that date. It says in his marriage cert that his father was Alexander Gordon Tinsmith as does the other marriage cert of those siblings I can find. Why can't I find a birth record for him? Also, no death record for Margaret Gordon his grandmother who died in 1880 and I've looked on GRONI.
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Name MARGARET GORDON
Year of Death 1879
Group Registration ID 6730385
SR District/Reg Area Antrim
Deceased Age at Death 71
Widow of tinsmith
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06519/4877850.pdf
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Name JOHN GORDON
Year of Death 1907
Group Registration ID 4940426
SR District/Reg Area Belfast
Deceased Age at Death 37
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05516/4545914.pdf
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your great grandfather's older brother John died in 1867 in Carnmoney, your John must have been born after that date....and he died in 1907 age 37 as per cert!
Born 1870.
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Thanks both for answering and for the info. I can confirm that the death cert n 1907 in my great grandfather. The only birth in the years 1870-72 was a John Gordon born to Alexander Gordon sailor and Elizabeth Hanna. That doesn’t fit with Samuel who was born to Maria Stewart and Alex Gordon tinsmith.
I had noticed the workhouse death for Margaret Gordon but I dismissed it as the date didn’t match with the headstone inscription.
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Not all g/stones are correct!
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Where is he on 1901 Census?
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Is this him Age 32 in 1901 ??
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Everton_Street/961583/
If so....born 1869 OR THEREABOUTS!!
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He was in Everton Street in 1901 with Hannah his wife and children Maria. Polly and caroline
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Is this him Age 32 in 1901 ??
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Clifton/Everton_Street/961583/
If so....born 1869 OR THEREABOUTS!!
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I have managed to find this information regarding my ancestors Gordons and Stewart:
Northern Irish Gravestone Inscriptions
Surname(s) Graveyard Civil Parish Graveyard Location County
GORDON, STEWART Muckamore Muckamore, Grange of Muckamore Antrim
have verified the relationship between Samuel, David and several more of Maria Stewart and Alexander Gordons children.
Born before 1850
Gordon Elizabeth
Gordon Robt
Gordon Margt
Gordon Wm
Gordon James
Gordon Saml
Gordon Henry
Gordon John
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http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/search/cs/details.jsp?id=14483
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Yes, that's him in 1901. No wonder it's hard to find a birth record when his age keeps changing.
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John died in 1867 so within 10 years of that I reckon.
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Yes, I think so. The youngest was born in 1871 in Whiteabbey. He was David
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If David was the youngest then before 1871 so.
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I don't think those children were born before 1851. Maybe elizabeth was. She used the census to prove her age when applying for a pension. She married a calderwood
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Yes. Reckon she was eldest as mother was only 18!