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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: bornkentishman on Thursday 22 November 18 16:59 GMT (UK)
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I understand a GURR family arrived in RYE from Dieppe in 16th centuary as refugees. I would like to trace my GURR family back from residence in MARESFIELD in 18 th century to see if they are the directly related to the GURR'S landing Rye
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I think you need to give us some info on what you know about your Gurr family in Maresfield then in order that we might be able to help.
Who is living in Maresfield, what dates and where did you source this info would be a start please.
Pheno
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Pheno,
Thank you so much for responding to my post.
The earliest record which I believe is accurate is the marriage of Philadelphia Falconer and Henry Gurr on 25 December 1808 in Fletching. Both PF &HG were born in Fletching, the former christened on 15 June 1776 and the latter about 1760. All this data was derived from parish records held at Sussex County Records office. They had eight children one of whom was my ancestor William Gurr ch. 30 March 1788 in Fletching. He married Francis Ann Bennett in Maresfield on 8 April 1809. They resided in Maresfield where their nine children were born. (SCRO records)
It is the parents of HG that I have little firm data. There is a John Gurr ch. 20 February 1723 in Fletching who may be related but may not as the name John is not a name used in my family. Beyond John Gurr it becomes a mystery although I found a Thomas Gurr married to Elizabeth Sheppard in Lewis bet. 1675 – 1725. All of this early data is rather suspect.
This information my chime with your own research and I will be grateful if you are able to help. Regards
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Hi, sorry forgot to say welcome to Rootschat.
Have had a very quick look at baptisms in Fletching and there doesn't appear to be one for a Henry Gurr around 1760. There is though a burial in Fletching on 2 July 1833 for an 88 year old Henry Gurr which would give a birthdate of around 1745.
Soundex is giving Carr as a variant of Gurr so that might be worth investigating.
Sorry have to go out now and away for weekend so can't look any further but hopefully another Rootschatter will see this and take up the quest.
Pheno
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Hello & welcome to RootsChat
Found this Marriage on Sussex Marriage Index
By Licence (Lewis )
13 January 1718/9
Thomas Gurr,Yeoman from Keymer ,at time of Marriage
Elizabeth Sheppard,SP from Clayton,at time of Marriage
omega
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Omega,
Thank you for your post concerning Thomas Gurr. I did have some fragmented data on Thomas, mostly relating to his death in 1794. I had nothing of his wife and where the marriage occurred.
Many thanks so now I will see if I can trace his children and where they were christened.
Regards,
bornkentishman
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Welcome to RootsChat.
Not sure if any of these baptisms will help - first three parishes are close together if the family moved about for work.
Keymer – St Cosmos & St Damian:
Thomas 04 Jan 1720/21 s/o Thomas & Elizabeth – probable burial 09 Feb 1720 s/o Thomas
Fletching – St Andrew & St Mary the Virgin:
Joan 20 Feb 1722/23 d/o Thomas & Elizabeth #
John 20 Feb 1722 s/o Thomas & Elizabeth #
# Two entries in SFHG transcriptions, not sure if same person or siblings, possibly baptised at same time but different births.
Bolney – St Mary Magdelene:
Elizabeth 05 Apr 1724 d/o Thomas & Elizabeth
John 29 Dec 1726 s/o Thomas & Elizabeth
Charles 27 May 1728 s/o Thomas & Elizabeth
These seem a bit too far away from the original parish, Keymer but are getting nearer to Rye..
Warbleton:
Thomas 18 Jan 1728 s/o Thomas & Elizabeth
Sarah 17 Oct 1736 d/o Thomas & Elizabeth
Hellingly:
Ann 02 Feb 1733 d/o Thomas & Elizabeth
Mary 02 Feb 1736 d/o Thomas & Elizabeth
Berwick:
Mary 24 Dec 1738 d/o Thomas & Elizabeth
Thomas 01 Apr 1744 s/o Thomas & Elizabeth
Lara 02 Feb 1745 d/o Thomas & Elizabeth
Sarah 02 Feb 1745 d/o Thomas & Elizabeth
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The earliest record which I believe is accurate is the marriage of Philadelphia Falconer and Henry Gurr on 25 December 1808 in Fletching.
The date is a bit confusing.
Marriage was 25 December 1787
Image here (need to be logged in as free member)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYLH-PNF?i=389&cat=215426
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Hen: Gur at Tanyard Farm, Fletching Land Tax 1789
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D4S9-RQX?i=5&cat=326240
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Baptism at Fletching of one of H + P's children
16 August 1801
Mary Godfrey
Daur of Henry + Philadelphia Gurr
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYLH-P7H?i=427&cat=215426
Which may be where the idea of Henry's father being John came from.
John Gurr + Elizabeth Godfrey, married 22 April 1728, Warbleton.
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Baptism at Warbleton, 30 September 1744
Henry
Son of John + Elizbth Gurr
image here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6XGQ-4DP
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11 Nov 1746, Warbleton
Burial of a Henry Gurr
BT
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DR53-BLM?i=957&cat=585754
PR is image 256
Doesn't say "son of"
But there are baptisms indexed in Warbleton to a Henry + Sarah Gurr, appx 1777-1786
Probably Henry Gurr - Sarah Stevens, 16 October 1776, Rotherfield.
So, could that one be the Henry bap Warbleton 1744?
Back to Fletching
Marriage of a widowed Henry Gurr in 1813
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYLH-5H9?i=657&cat=215426
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Jonw65
Thank you very much for your post and taking the trouble to research my family. I have not found a Mary Gurr among the eight children of HG. I first child I have discovered was Louiza Gurr born 4/11/1809 so if Mary was his child then she pre dated Louiza however as HG&PF were married in 1787 it does seem a long time to delay children so your suggestion could be correct. The widowed HG could be the same HG as PH died in 1808 and HG and his new wife continued to have children until 1833. This is the first time I learned that HG married twice so I must pay a visit to ESRO to check this further.
I think the Gurr’s of Warbleton were a close but not my branch of Gurr family as my HG died in Fletching in1835 but again I must verify.
Many thanks again
Regards,
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You are probably related to me. I would be interested to know if you have had a DNA test, as there’s a DNA circle on Ancestry centred on the Gurr family, as some branches ended up in the USA which always reflects in DNA results since testing is so popular over there.
My 3xGGM was Mary Gurr, born in Northiam just outside Rye in 1827. She died in 1909.
Her father was James Elijah Gurr, born in 1784 in Peasmarsh, just outside Rye. He married Sarah Eldredge and died in 1858.
His father was Thomas Gurr, born in 1752 in Peasmarsh. He married Elizabeth Bosden and died in 1826.
His father was William Gurr, born in 1724 in Peasmarsh. He married Mary Honace and died in 1785.
His father was Isaac Gurr, born in 1679 in Chiddingly; died 1763.
His father was Isaac Gurr, born in 1653 in Lewes.
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brightmount,
Thank you for making contact and yes, we are probably related at some point. I have not had a DNA test as I am doubtful if it will reveal much conclusive information on my ancestors.
Coincidently, I lived until four years ago in Northiam and did come across the Gurr’s living there but that was when I was tracing the history of our cottage and not family history. I subsequently started tracing my past largely as a result of the coincidence of Gurr’s living in Northiam.
My branch, as I have so far determined, started in the village of Fletching near to Maresfield but how they showed up there is a mystery but they did have in the 19th century many contacts with Lewes and other locations with the Sussex coastal towns but no smoking gun as yet to connect them firmly to Lewes.
I do know that a Gurr family disembarked in Rye in the 1570/80’s as immigrants from France during the religious wars, embarking from Dieppe but the gap of some 200 years between Rye and Lewes is another mystery.
I am sorry that this is almost certainly unhelpful with your research but the Gurr’s did much to confuse the researcher.
Regards,
bornmanofkent