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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Tyrone => Topic started by: 1803Emirates on Friday 23 November 18 02:04 GMT (UK)
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hi all,
being Australian getting my head around the above is tricky.
i have a will that states her mother was born Newtown Sibel
Newtown Saville is an ecclesiastical district of Clogher
Newtown Stewart is a townland Barony of Strabane
i am trying to narrow things down. i may need a quick geography lesson
kind regards
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There are too many options..you have the likes of
Newtown (Baker), Newtown (Darcy), Newtown (Glynn), Newtown (Guest), Newtown (Hodgins), Newtown (Lynott), Newtown (Regan)
Have you any more details? Names, Dates?
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ummm have not heard of those, i am leaning towards Newtown Stewart as that is a townland
i dont think you would say you were from a parish.
i am looking for Maria Cullinan of co tyrone born abt 1854 catholic who married Joseph Moyna of Augher married possibly in Tyrone as the marriage is not registered in New Zealand where their first child was born in 1881.
i also cant find them immigrating either separately or as a couple
i can find cullinans in Newtown stewart but cant link.
maybe i am expecting to much.
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Civil Reg Marriage results for Mary Cullinan from 1870 to 1882 doesn't show a Marriage for her.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n2n/
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/civil-records/help/what-civil-records-are-on-line
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Neither does Marriage results for Joseph Moyna!
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R.C registers
Ardstraw East
Diocese of Derry | County of Tyrone
Variant forms of parish name:
Newtownstewart
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0345
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When and where was the Will written?
Who wrote the Will, and what age was that person?
And the birthplace is given for Maria Cullinan of co tyrone born abt 1854?
Who is giving Maria CULLINAN this birthplace?
Location names have varying currency depending on time and place....name used by a native or referred from a distance of time and place......etc.
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Maria moyna died 28/12/1923
Joseph died 12/10/1928
Both wills registered Christchurch New Zealand and both can be found on family search.
I will look though adstraw tomorrow, can’t say I had looked there
Thank you
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Moynagh would be used more in Ireland!
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Maria moyna died 28/12/1923
Joseph died 12/10/1928
Both wills registered Christchurch New Zealand and both can be found on family search.
I will look though adstraw tomorrow, can’t say I had looked there
Thank you
Tried looking
Search Results from Historical Records
No records found for Name: Maria Moyna, Event: Death, Place: New Zealand, Event Range: 1923-1924, Record Type: Probate, Other
Don't have time to waste looking further!
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"..i have a will that states her mother was born Newtown Sibel"
What is the name of the person whose Will you have?
Who is the mother named?
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Thank you for the adstraw suggestion, I can see a few minnagh/Moynagh
Cullinan marriages in the Omagh records.
I had been concentrating on the Clogher records but will now move on to Omagh.
The dau of Maria Cullinan and Joseph Moyna who was born in NZ and wrote in the wills 1924. That Maria was from Newtown Siebil, and Joseph from Augher these are hard to find on family search as all are not indexed and i had to go one by one.
Thank you all for your time
Kind regards
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Moynagh would be used more in Ireland!
Also Cullinane is NZ variation
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On Griffiths Valuation (1860) there are several entries for a Michael Moynagh, Mynagh who leases property in the Augher tenements/Clogher.
There are 18 entries for Cullinan, some in Clogher.
From the topographical dictionary of Ireland of 1837 come these descriptions of
https://www.libraryireland.com/topog/N/Newtown-Saville-Clogher-Tyrone.php
https://www.libraryireland.com/topog/N/Newtown-Stewart-Strabane-Tyrone.php
In the 1841 census there is reference to a Joseph Moynagh
Townland: Nurchossy Irish, Nurchossy Scotch
Parish: Clogher
Barony: Clogher
County: Tyrone
The looking to see if anyone is still there in the 1901 census there are
Robert Moynagh 60 (born 1841) who is there with his wife Margaret as a caretaker to John Barnett
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http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/search/cs/details.jsp?id=57965
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http://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/search/cs/home.jsp
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thank you Shanreagh
once i started adding moynagh instead of moyna i have progressed i have been in touch with the family of michael from the auger tenements and their family is well researched in fact they seem to own most of the moynaghs of co tyrone and co monaghan,so am working on the moyna's left over.
i have now found the immigration record also for maria moyna and her husband Joseph and her sister annie to NZ.
as i thought joseph and maria married in co tyrone and 3 months later came to Nz.
Unfortunately the clogher marriage record does not list the parents of Maria maybe the priest had forgotton them by the time he wrote up the record,frustrating to say the least.
thank you again for your efforts as always most appreciated