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All I have is his name, Adam Mair, posibly born in the Cambuslang area of Glasgow. He was a miner and I think employed by Shotts Iron Company. The family moved to Penicuik where he worked at The Roslin (Moat) pit. This was prior to 1914 and he enlisted in the army and fought at The Somme. This is to aid me in tracing his service in WW1. I have tried many sites to no avail
Thanks
Finding
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Was Adam Married ? If he was what was his wife's name ? Regiment if known ? When did he move to Penicuik ?
There was a Adam Mair born 1880 married 29 December 1899 - Burnbank. Regiment Name 8th Gordon Hussars. Colliery Foreman.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB2-R363
Adam Mair Self (Head) Annie McDermott - Spouse
Kate Mair Child - Mary Mair Child - Adam Mair - Child Annie Mair - Child
Sandra
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WWI Pension Ledgers and Index Cards, 1914-1923 - Pte Adam Mair - Born 1880 Cambuslang Scotland. Discharge Date: 8 Dec 1919 - Service Number 280753 - Regiment 7th H. L. I.
Reference Number: 1/MM/14359 - further details at Fold 3
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB5-FKL1
Sandra
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Another possibility?
Adam Mair, 2341, 8th Bn, Gordon Highlanders
Born 1880, Wishaw, Lanarkshire
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB2-R363
Plus:
8th Bn, Royal Scots. A. Mair
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB5-63FK
5th Bn, Highland Light Infantry, A. Mair
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB5-FKL1
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Welcome to RootsChat
Was Adam Married ? If he was what was his wife's name ? Regiment if known ? When did he move to Penicuik ?
There was a Adam Mair born 1880 married 29 December 1899 - Burnbank. Regiment Name 8th Gordon Hussars. Colliery Foreman.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVB2-R363
Adam Mair Self (Head) Annie McDermott - Spouse
Kate Mair Child - Mary Mair Child - Adam Mair - Child Annie Mair - Child
Sandra
His army number 2341, Gordon Highlanders.
The record indicates he was discharged medically unfit in October 1914 :-\
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Is this the same Adam Mair ? Was he discounted ?
Old Message board post 2006................
"looking for any info on adam Mair or his wife Annie Mair nee Mcdermid ( possible of Irish parents), married 1900. He Coalminer in Lanarkshire and latterly with Shotts Iron Company, Roslin, Midlothian"
https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/mair/340/
1901 census 87 Whitehill Road Hamilton Lanarkshire
Adam Mair 21 Annie Mc D Mair 2
Sandra
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he enlisted in the army and fought at The Somme
Where has this come from?
We really need something a bit more positive.
You say he was possibly born 1880 Cambuslang.
We need to know for definite.
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Many thanksfor the replies, it's now ringing many bells. His wifeI believe was Annie and I have recollections of the sons/daughters and no mention of my father Alexander Mair
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What year was your father born ?
Can see Alexander Mair - M - 1914 - 627/ 475 - Cambuslang ???
Sandra
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Hi my father was born 4th August 1920. I am hampered in this research due to lack of birth certificates etc
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Why can't you get the birth certificate ?
Sandra
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Registery house ????
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My great uncle Duncan Macdermid never married his "wife" Celia Alfred Robson ...from Northants
So sometimes marriage certificates can't be found
Coincidence his whole family was also from Cambuslang minors or weavers...
His eldest son Duncan was born in Ireland 1906
But daughter born in Cambuslang 1909
Their father died in 1910 and Celia stayed near the Macdermids then moved to Glasgow I haven't been able to find what became of Duncan junior or Mary Agnes Macdermid
Agnes is sometimes alternated with Ann
* modified
In the excitement I completely mixed up my generations
The marrige of Adam was before birth of my missing great aunt .so I.ll scrap that information as it will be confusing
On the slight possibility that Ann is linked to MACDERMID s on my tree ... have any of you family done DNA tests .?
I have links to 2nd and 3rd cousins in America Australia and Canada
Also can you give their children's names if they followed naming patterns as strictly as my family the 1st son would be after paternal father 2nd after mother s father and 3rd after.Adams 1St daughter would be named after Ann s mother 2nd after his mother
Can you find any baptisms for them ?
* modified I have a mystery( another birth father )
Named as William Muir have you tried that spelling
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Registery house ????
Have you looked for his birth on Scotlands People? https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
They are showing the birth of an Alexander Mair in Cambuslang in 1920.
You would need to buy a few credits then you can download it straight away.
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Registery house ????
Have you looked for his birth on Scotlands People? https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
They are showing the birth of an Alexander Mair in Cambuslang in 1920.
You would need to buy a few credits then you can download it straight away.
My apologies, this is incorrect.
You would have to order the certificate, as the birth is less than 100 years ago. I think you can do this via Scotlands People.
Apologies for misleading you.
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Thank you for all the help, now need to do more research
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On SP there is also a record for will of a Adam Muir who died March 1919
Could be Alexander born after his father.died.
* btw if you don't have his birth certificate how do you know the date of birth you have for Alexander is correct ?
My grandmother always thought she was born 1900 but when she finally saw her birthday cert learnt it was actually 1899
But it is well worth looking for births under Macdermid surname
There are so many Ann Macdermid s in Cambuslang
the Macdairmids.are actually a family with different origins but often registrars mixed uplease the spellings even with
Mc. Or Mac the same Glaswegian registrar used Mac for my father and Mc for his sisters birth registration.
I have some searches already paid for on this family so will look for you if you give a few more details ...do you happen to know exact address of any family members
Any links to Allen St Glasgow ?
Or Camlees Road Cambuslang. .
They are noted on Adam Mair s testament.
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Sorry folks I modified an earlier post and added some information you may have missed but so.easy was wrong anyway so have deleted.
Sandra I can't get on to my family search site to open the links you sent but .......
Burnbank Cambuslang listed for Adam and Ann McD is where my famIlyich was too
I think Alexander .s birth could have been registered as Macdermid if pre marriage
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Does river road Carmyle feature on any documents
I need to go back and look over all my documents but I'm hopeful that Ann will be connected to Malcolm Macdermid and Mary Mckay who had 10 children in Cambuslang
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To access any records you must be registered on family search - it is free.
Sandra
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Yes I was registered. .wanted to log back in to see past searches but it's not accepting my user name
Its been a long while since I used Family Search .at the momentl I'm looking at Saved searches on SP.as you may remember I'm a tortoise on computer.work
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I do have DNA distant l to people with the surnames Mair on the trees but nothing to join dots
The name Adam Mair goes back many generations and each one has lots of children so can you be sure thone war records are not from.one of his cousins
Happy searching anyway .
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Many thanks for all the info. I have received and narrowed my search that my grandad was in the H.L.I. despited trolling the net for a list of those who served in the H.L.I. during WW1 I have drawn a blank. Has anyone ideas ?
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I can see just the one.
Pte. 2695 7/HLI. As this was a TF Batt. he was given a 6 digit no. in Jan. 1917 which was 280753.
His 15 Star Roll gives a disembarkation date of 2/7/15 Theatre 2B = Gallipoli.
The LLT says this:
1/7th (Blythswood) Battalion
August 1914 : at Bridgeton, Glasgow. Record same as 1/5th Bn.
1/5th (City of Glasgow) Battalion
August 1914 : at Garnethill, Glasgow. Part of HLI Brigade in Lowland Division. Moved on mobilisation to Dunfermline.
11 May 1915 : formation became 157th Brigade in 52nd (Lowland) Division.
26 May 1915 : sailed from Devonport for Gallipoli, going via Egypt (5-28 June) and Mudros (1 July), landing at Cape Helles on 3 July.
8 January 1916 : evacuated from Gallipoli to Mudros and arrived Egypt in February.
11 April 1918 : Division left Egypt, battalion arrived Marseilles 17 April for service on Western Front.
War diary here if you have an Ancestry sub;
Gallipoli
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n4h/
Western Front:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01n4j/
Info came from the Medal Rolls on Ancestry.
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thank youfor al that...............can you tell me where you found that info ?
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Amended above post.
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I'm not sure how big an area Burn banks was but I'm told it borders 2 other places Shotts and ...?
My Macdermid grandparents address was noted as Burn Butts on some documents is that the same place ?
I have a pic of the 1800 cottage that used to flood when the river Burn overflowed
BTW Finding. What did you think about the idea that our fa miles may be related
Do you think MUIR were a separate family MAIR
And what do you know about your grandma Annie? Her death certificate would give her parents names
.husbands occupation and Wether or no tthey were pre deceased
Also the place where died and address at death can be vital clues to link families
* Are thete any addresses of next of kin on.the military records
Sorry for bombarding you with questions if you are only interested in his military history
But somehow I feel you may provide link to my unmarried great great grandma Margaret LOVE and her daughter Maggie LOVE MUIR who only used Muir surname on.1 document
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Right, I have two interests:
My grandads involvent in WW1........ progessing nicely
My family history as it relates to how my ancestors migrated from Glasgow to Midlothian (all being in the coal mining industry) my father also worked in the pits here but enlisted in the R.A.F. on the outbreak of WW2.
In the main I use ScotlandsPeople site and I have various information. As you know to veiw info on any person you need to buy credits. Until I have narrowed my search I have held off buying credits. However I now have enough to start looking at these records.
The info I have may be better set out by e-mail as it will take up a fair bit on Roots but might relate to your search
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To kick you off, believe this is your Adam's death (had some spare credits on SP):
Adam Mair 81 Mine Deputy (Retired) (married to Annie McDermott) died 20/10/1960 at East Fort..... (not clear) Hospital, usual residence 1 Carnethy Court, Penecuik - informant son Adam Mair of 140 St. Brides Way, Bothwell, Lanarkshire. His parents listed as Alexander Mair, coal miner (dec'd) and Janet Mair, nee Muir (dec'd).
His parents married 26/6/1877 and census shows he was born Wishaw (actually on 4/10/1879, 25 Berryhill Row, Wishaw).
Annette
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Think re army history that he is the Adam Mair, 2695/280753 of 7th Highland Light Infantry - per pension records which state his residence as Cambusnethan - he was born in Wishaw but in 1911 he and Annie were living in Cambusnethan.
Annette
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Annete, thank you for this information which I already have. My grandads death was at East Fortune Hospital (Near Haddington, a fever/TB hospital now derelict). Grand paw had other children, inc Adam jnr, the others are proving a bit more difficult to trace. From what my auntie told me a bit of a mystery surrounds them
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Indeed this information relating to his army service is correct and, from info I got from the kind folks on this site, I have gleaned a lot more. I still have lots more to find both the army history and my ancestors are linked, I just have to unravel it lol