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Title: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: Davedrave on Thursday 29 November 18 10:43 GMT (UK)
I have found the record of Willm Light in the 1841 Census record of Chertsey, Surrey, on FamilySearch. This website directs me to findmypast, and I was intending to take out a brief subscription to buy the original image from there. However, I can find no record on that site.

FamilySearch gives the census ref: HO107/1074/47/15.

I have tried to search on findmypast for this but drawn a blank - maybe I’m being dim (entirely possible!).

I’d be very grateful if anyone could help, possibly by locating an entry on an adjacent page using a different website? If the entry is not on findmypast but on another website, I’ll subscribe there instead.

Dave :)
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 29 November 18 10:49 GMT (UK)
How old is Willm?

1841 record on ancestry has a William Light age 3 born Surrey if that's him  :)

If you need the rest of the family - there are a lot - will list them.
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: Jebber on Thursday 29 November 18 10:53 GMT (UK)
Was William born in 1838, son of Joseph?
  If so the reference is HO107/1074/8/52.
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: Davedrave on Thursday 29 November 18 10:59 GMT (UK)
How old is Willm?

1841 record on ancestry has a William Light age 3 born Surrey if that's him  :)

If you need the rest of the family - there are a lot - will list them.

Thanks. The William I am interested in was baptised in Chertsey in 1820 and according to the 1841 Census was in Chertsey at Abby House, with what looks like several siblings. I tried using the FamilySearch census number on findmypast but didn’t get anything.
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 29 November 18 11:01 GMT (UK)
FamilySearch gives the census ref: HO107/1074/47/15.

The reference number on Family Search is incorrect, as it is missing the book number.

The correct reference is HO 107 / 1074 / 7/ 47 / 15

I have just checked this on FindMyPast using only this reference, and it takes you to the correct page.
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: Jebber on Thursday 29 November 18 11:05 GMT (UK)
Snap :)
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: jonw65 on Thursday 29 November 18 11:14 GMT (UK)
But FamilySearch does have the book number
On the right hand side
England and Wales Census, 1841
Book Number   7
Line Number   18
Digital Folder Number   101721043
Image Number   00249
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: Davedrave on Thursday 29 November 18 11:19 GMT (UK)
Many thanks. I did actually just find it when I searched on findmypast under Thomas Light who appears in the FamilySearch record (as Thos) below William. I wonder why William himself isn’t indexed on findmypast?

Dave :)
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 29 November 18 11:21 GMT (UK)
But FamilySearch does have the book number
On the right hand side
England and Wales Census, 1841
Book Number   7
Line Number   18
Digital Folder Number   101721043
Image Number   00249

I was going by the reference given in the original posting!
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 29 November 18 11:33 GMT (UK)
Many thanks. I did actually just find it when I searched on findmypast under Thomas Light who appears in the FamilySearch record (as Thos) below William. I wonder why William himself isn’t indexed on findmypast?

The William who appears in this family group is indexed on FindMyPast as William Light born 1826. The year is correct, as he is shown as 15 on the page. Strictly speaking he should be indexed as Willm.
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: Jebber on Thursday 29 November 18 11:44 GMT (UK)
Many thanks. I did actually just find it when I searched on findmypast under Thomas Light who appears in the FamilySearch record (as Thos) below William. I wonder why William himself isn’t indexed on findmypast?

Dave :)

Perhaps you put in his birth year 1820 exactly, the adult ages were rounded down to the nearest five years, so William is shown as 15, then he doesn’t show up in the index.
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 29 November 18 11:48 GMT (UK)
FamilySearch gives the census ref: HO107/1074/47/15.

Family Search give the reference in a very confusing way.

An 1841 census reference should always contain (in this order)

Piece number (1074), Book number (7) Folio number (47) Page number (15)
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 29 November 18 12:48 GMT (UK)
Many thanks. I did actually just find it when I searched on findmypast under Thomas Light who appears in the FamilySearch record (as Thos) below William. I wonder why William himself isn’t indexed on findmypast?

Dave :)

He is indexed in 1841 - I just searched William Light living Chertsey reg district, the other result was the 3 year old

William Light   1826    Surrey   Chertsey   Chertsey   Surrey
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: Davedrave on Thursday 29 November 18 13:29 GMT (UK)
Many thanks. I did actually just find it when I searched on findmypast under Thomas Light who appears in the FamilySearch record (as Thos) below William. I wonder why William himself isn’t indexed on findmypast?

Dave :)

He is indexed in 1841 - I just searched William Light living Chertsey reg district, the other result was the 3 year old

William Light   1826    Surrey   Chertsey   Chertsey   Surrey

Thanks Rosie. For a moment I thought I was not simply losing, but had already totally lost, the plot! In mitigation I will simply say that I was being too specific. I had the baptism date from FamilySearch (1820) and was specifically searching only the 1841 Census data pages, using the broadest age range it seems to allow, +/- 5 years, and it is now clear to me that the date FindMyPast had worked out (1826) was just falling outside my search net. I need to learn to search more broadly, clearly.

Dave :)
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 29 November 18 13:36 GMT (UK)
it is now clear to me that the date FindMyPast had worked out (1826) was just falling outside my search net.

In fairness to FindMyPast the age given there is exactly the same as that given in the Family Search census entry you quoted in your original posting.
Title: Re: This 1841 Census record must be there?
Post by: Davedrave on Thursday 29 November 18 15:54 GMT (UK)
it is now clear to me that the date FindMyPast had worked out (1826) was just falling outside my search net.

In fairness to FindMyPast the age given there is exactly the same as that given in the Family Search census entry you quoted in your original posting.

I didn’t notice that maybe because I started with his baptism record and then swapped page to the census. However, you have fortunately just prompted me to revisit FS website and I have now found him in the 1891 Census too, which is great. Thanks.

Dave :)