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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Norfolk => Topic started by: Andro93 on Thursday 29 November 18 19:28 GMT (UK)
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Henry Mobbs was born in Norwich in 1867. His parents were another Henry Mobbs and Joanna Lovick, married in Norwich in 1866. On the 1891 Census the younger Henry is with his uncle, Charles Lovick, a french polisher. I am trying to discover the birth and parents of the older Henry Mobbs. On the 1841 Census there is a Henry Mobbs aged 4 in Yarmouth, his parents being Edward Mobbs, a shoemaker and Hannah. Is he the right Henry? That is the question. There is no record of a baptism and he is very elusive on Census returns. Any help will be appreciated.
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Henry Mobbs was born in Norwich in 1867. His parents were another Henry Mobbs and Joanna Lovick, married in Norwich in 1866. On the 1891 Census the younger Henry is with his uncle, Charles Lovick, a french polisher. I am trying to discover the birth and parents of the older Henry Mobbs. On the 1841 Census there is a Henry Mobbs aged 4 in Yarmouth, his parents being Edward Mobbs, a shoemaker and Hannah. Is he the right Henry? That is the question. There is no record of a baptism and he is very elusive on Census returns. Any help will be appreciated.
It's actually the 1871 census that he's with his uncle.
Annette
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Hi from 1851/61, Joanna Lovick b c 1844 Norwich with brother Charles occ French Polisher with family.
Keyboard86
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I, too, can only find Henry in 1871 with Uncle Charles. I can't see father Henry anywhere other than the dubious 1841 sighting you mention. I can't find a Joanna Mobbs either. However I have found Joanna Lovick in 1851, St John's Madder Market, Norwich with brother Charles and mother Charlotte plus two other siblings. Charlotte is married but no husband with her. In 1841, St Johns Madder Market, I can find Charlotte, son Charles along with husband Charles whose occupation is Waterman. If Henry Mobbs was also a Waterman this may explain him not showing up in any Censuses, likewise his family - they could have been anywhere.
Emeltee
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I think you will need to purchase the marriage certificate of Henry Mobbs and Joanna Lovick - there are too many possibilities for 'Henry Mobbs' - alas, it doesn't seem to be available online. You need to know his occupation, name of father.
You can't pick the one in Yarmouth just because this is the only likely candidate in Norfolk - Henry could have come from anywhere before marrying in Norfolk 1866.
You can't research a family on the basis of a 'guesstimate'.
Annette
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In 1891 Henry is with his mother who is shown as married but listed as Anna.
1871 Census - Bermondsey
Henry Mobbs 30 (?hard to read) Commercial Traveller born Brackley, Northamptonshire
Anna Mobbs 28 born Norwich, Norfolk.
Annette
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There is a Henry Mobbs baptised in Great Yarmouth 2nd June, 1847, born 24th March. His parents were William and Sarah. [I believe it is Sarah = handwriting]. The maiden name of Henry Mobbs mother is shown elsewhere as Berry.
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Henry Mobbs born 15/12/1841, bp.26/2/1842 Brackley, Northamptonshire, son of Elizabeth (illegitimate).
Annette
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Annette, many thanks. It was clever of you to find them in Bermondsey! It would explain why Henry jnr was with relatives in Norwich in 1871.
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1851 - Henry Mobbs is shown as grandson to a Hannah Mobbs in Brackley.
1881 - Henry is a lodger in Kings Lynn - shown as married but don't know where wife was.
Cannot trace Henry senior after 1881 census. Their son Henry was their only child (according to GRO's own birth index).
Annette
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I may be able to help, as Henry Mobbs is my Great Grandfather, his father Henry Mobbs born 1841 is my Great Great Grandfather. I have literally just gone back through these and have ordered a few certificates.
Henry Mobbs born 25 Mar 1867 in Norwich. I have his original marriage certiicate to Ann Hardy! His father is named as Henry Mobbs, a Cloth Hawker.
Father: Henry Mobbs born 1841 in Brackley, Northamptonshire.
Mother: Named as Joanna Lovick on her baptism record, but later also goes by the name Hannah or Anna.
Mother of Joanna/Hannah is named as Mary Ann on her Baptism record and her father is Thomas Lovick.
I can not as yet find a father for the Henry Mobbs born in 1841, but his mother is Elizabeth Mobbs, so I suspect the father was not involved.
Mandie