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HI. Can anyone please help me i am researching my great grandfather Stephen Heeley/Healey parents. He was born 1871 ...died 1897. Lived in oldbury / langley Staffordshire think is mothers name was eliza. Please any help would be very gratefull thank you.
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The only stephen healey i can see b 1871 in birth indexes was b poplar (middlesex).
What records (when and where) does he appear?
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1881? Back Lane West Bromwich. All b Oldbury except where shown
Samuel Brinton 30 - coal miner
Eliza Brinton 30 - Belper
Stephen Haley 11 - son
John T Brinton 6
Joseph Brinton 3
Lavinia Brinton
Marriage Q4 1874 Dudley Vol 6c p216
BRINTON Samuel
BROOKS Samuel
Early Emma
Haley Eliza
The Brinton children appear to have mother's maiden name Healey, so I suspect Steven was illegitimate
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Hello and welcome :)
Is this him?
1891 2266/77
Stephen Haley 20 yrs
Phoebe Haley 19yrs
Stephen Haley 4 months
All born Oldbury
Heywood
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here's eliza in Oldbury, 1861 - her daughter "Lavinia" Brinton from 181 appears to have been registered as Sabina, which matches a sibling here
Michail Healey 34 - marine gatherer b Ireland
Ellen Healey 30 - b Ireland
Eliza Healey 11 - b Belper
Thos Healey 10
Sabina Healey 9
Mary Healey 3
James Healey 1
Michail Healey 0
RG 9, 2021, 103, 12
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What is a marine gatherer ?
In the census posted by Mabel
Eliza is the name of the sister Michael Bs wife is down as Ellen ...
Could he have remarried?
My interest was raised because I
have some HEALEYs where fathers are missing because at Sea
And some who weren't officially married .
Don't think they are linked to yours Jono
As mostly around Liverpool
Good luck ..it sounds as though they might be complicated .
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What is a marine gatherer ?
It's not in my list of Victorian occupations.
Might it have been collecting old rope etc for a marine store dealer? He was a bit far inland to have been harvesting anything from the sea.
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How about Martin and Ellen Healey b.Ireland as suitable parents for Micheal
I found this old post with related names
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=428390.msg2931348#msg2931348
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Thanks Maidens tone
The family above may be related to mine as younger children born Warrington cheshire .
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Birth :-\
Births Dec 1869
HAYLEY Stephen
W. Bromwich 6b 668
GRO gives us--
HAYLEY, Stephen MMS -
GRO 1869
D Quarter
WEST BROMWICH Vol 06B Pg 668
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So was Steven s Mother called Ellen or Eliza Healey
( I'm not very good at looking at births)
*in case jono hasnt seen these replies I have sent a pm
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So was Steven s Mother called Ellen or Eliza Healey
( I'm not very good at looking at births)
*in case jono hasnt seen these replies I have sent a pm
Stephen’s mother was Eliza and her parents were Michael and Ellen posted earlier by Mabel.
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Could a ‘Marine Gatherer’ be a Rag and Bone Man?
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Rag and Bone man ....that's a good possibility could specialise in marine things. If he had relatives who were mariners..ropes were valuable
Thanks for clearing up Eliza Ellen relationship. .I got confused thinking Sabina was too young to be her daughter ..now understand "Lavina "her daughter was transcribed as Sabina
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Yes it can get a bit complicated with spellings etc.
I don’t think ‘marine’ was connected to the sea in this case - just waste materials. Perhaps origins of the name were sea related.
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There has been more than one discussion about "Marine store dealers" on here.
Basically, it IS Rag-and-bone men
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That is what I thought Pauline. Thank you.
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HI. Can anyone please help me i am researching my great grandfather Stephen Heeley/Healey parents. He was born 1871 ...died 1897. Lived in oldbury / langley Staffordshire think is mothers name was eliza. Please any help would be very gratefull thank you.
So Jono58, in answer to your original inquiry, mother seems to be Eliza HEALEY (various spellings) and father unknown. An exnuptial child if the birth I have posted above is correct. Also, if correct, she was quite young at the time of Stephen's birth and I have not seen her on 1871 census.
Sue
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Re. Heeley/healey family.
I would like to thank you all for your help. It is what i thought, but was not sure i was on the right track. I seem to go in circles. But i am so gratefull it means a end to my trail. I was hoping there may be a possible way to find link with stephen healey and eliza spouse.😢
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There has been more than one discussion about "Marine store dealers" on here.
Basically, it IS Rag-and-bone men
Definition of Marine Store Dealer from a list of Victorian occupations derived from 1891 census, London: "A person who buys and sells used cordage, bunting, rags, timber, metal, etc, sorts waste, mends sacks"
www.census1891.com
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Re. Heeley/healey family.
I would like to thank you all for your help. It is what i thought, but was not sure i was on the right track. I seem to go in circles. But i am so gratefull it means a end to my trail. I was hoping there may be a possible way to find link with stephen healey and eliza spouse.😢
Not sure what you mean here. I think you mean your search is over re Stephen’s origins but Eliza was his mother. :-\
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Is this family linked ..this was an old post
" Healy family of Castleblaney" from search box
Father is Michael. ..HEALEY b ireland
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Sorry i mean the end of a trail to finding if eliza had a spouse when stephen was born. Been trying for years on and off thank you.😖