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Title: Augustus henry french
Post by: softly softly on Friday 30 November 18 15:39 GMT (UK)
Hi, Augustus was born 1847 St. Luke’s, could anyone please tell me his parents please
Thanks john
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: carol8353 on Friday 30 November 18 15:49 GMT (UK)
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Gives his mmn as Cook.

FRENCH, AUGUSTUS  HENRY     mmn COOK     
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in SAINT LUKE MIDDLESEX  Volume 02  Page 277

Might help find his parents.
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: heywood on Friday 30 November 18 15:57 GMT (UK)
It’s strange.

1891 329/32

Augustus H French 43 yrs Ship Fitter b City road
Isabelle French   40 b Liverpool
Syncy French   12 yrs
Margaret French   10 yrs
James French 5 yrs
Catherine French 2 yrs
Children b Poplar
John Wilkinson   60 yrs boarder

This is the only sighting up to now.
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 30 November 18 15:59 GMT (UK)
1851 census shows his parents as Henry & Catherine?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJN-6V3

(Enumerated as Augusta!)
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: heywood on Friday 30 November 18 16:02 GMT (UK)
1851 census shows his parents as Henry & Catherine?

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJN-6V3

(Enumerated as Augusta!)

That’s great  :)
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: KGarrad on Friday 30 November 18 16:05 GMT (UK)
That census shows a sister Emily, age 1.

There's an Emily French, mmn Cook, born in Sherbourne Registration District in 1850?

Mother and daughter born in Sandford, Somerset according to census.
Sandford Orcas is in the Sherbourne RD.
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: JJen on Friday 30 November 18 16:09 GMT (UK)
Marriage (confirms father's name) -

Augustus Henry French
Marriage - 3 May 1869, St Mary, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England
Father - Henry French, Plumber
Spouse - Isabella Linton

JJ
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 01 December 18 00:09 GMT (UK)
Not sure if you are interested in Isabella, her grandmother Isabela Linton Born. C.1824 Aberdeen.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 01 December 18 06:44 GMT (UK)
Thank you all. A further ask is anyone able to spot them on earlier census other than the one already found please

John
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: KGarrad on Saturday 01 December 18 08:47 GMT (UK)
Parents marriage:

From FreeBMD:  March qtr 1847
Brighton Registration District     vol 7, page 348

French, Henry
+And, on the same page +
Cook, Catherine Smith


From FamilySearch:
21 March 1847 at St. Nicholas, Brighton

Henry French to Catherine Smith Cook

Fathers: William French and William Cook
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: heywood on Saturday 01 December 18 09:43 GMT (UK)
Here is Isabella in 1871 but no Augustus. Perhaps he is away at sea  :-\

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB64-15W


1911 Henry and Isbela
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWPX-FKW
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: heywood on Saturday 01 December 18 09:59 GMT (UK)
Not with mother in 1881
This is Isabel Linton -
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27S-Y51Q

Frederick is shown as son but in 1871 is Frederick French.
Birth 1870 Frederick French mmn Linton

Other births
1872 Isabella Catherine
1874 Henry Daniel
1876 Augustus Gordon
1878 Sidney
1881 Margaret Henrietta
1883 Hugh William
1885 James Henry
1888 Catherine Ellen
1891 May Maud

You could check for deaths for any of the above named
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: heywood on Saturday 01 December 18 15:58 GMT (UK)
1901

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X94J-GJ3
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 01 December 18 16:39 GMT (UK)
Hey wood, many thanks for all this information. Currently away on holiday so will collate once home

John
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 20 December 18 18:01 GMT (UK)
Hi, now home from holiday. The 1881 census record found by Heywood is for Isabella's mother, another Isabella. By 1881 Augustus (Henry) and Isabella had had 5 children but still cannot trace on that census. Further help required if people are willing.
Thanks

John
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: heywood on Thursday 20 December 18 23:01 GMT (UK)
Hello,

I posted Isabella’s mother (Linton) in 1881 census to show that Isabella French was not at the address. She had been with her mother in 1871.

You mention the five children by 1881. I advised that you check deaths.
Not shown in my previous list is Frederick from 1871 census
1870 Frederick Henry

Deaths
1875 Henry Daniel 1 yr
1875 Isabella Catherine 3 yrs
1879 Augustus Gordon 2 yrs

Frederick is with his grandmother in 1881, as son.

Sidney and Margaret H (born March quarter 1881) still living in 1881 but not yet found.
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: softly softly on Friday 21 December 18 07:41 GMT (UK)
Hi, Heywood, I must confess to having been rash in this research and not following through all the advice given, my apologies. It does seem strange that Augustus and Isabella do not seem to be appearing on the 1881 . Whilst not the end of the world it’s nice to tie up loose ends. Thanks again for all your help

John
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 December 18 08:23 GMT (UK)
Margaret Henrietta’s birth certificate would have an address which might help.
Perhaps her birth coincided with the date of the census  :-\ and the family were too busy.
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 21 December 18 09:09 GMT (UK)
Baptism - Margaret Henrietta French born 8/1/1881 Bapt. 24/2/1881 All Saints Poplar parents Henry and Isabella 1 Church Street occ. Mariner.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 21 December 18 09:15 GMT (UK)
Her marriage  3/11/1906 all Saints Poplar

James Paul Phelan 26 postman 2 Kirby street father James Dec. Coachman

Margaret Henrietta French 25.       “.     “.        father Henry  Augustus French Ships .

Witnesses Sidney French and Henry Augustus French

Jennifer
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 21 December 18 09:25 GMT (UK)
Sidney French born 3/5/1878 Bapt. All Saints Poplar 11/6/1878 same parents same address as for Margaret .

Jennifer
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 21 December 18 09:33 GMT (UK)
Sydney French 22 carman 57 Brady Street father Henry Electrician

married 25/12/1900 St Gabriel Crisp Street Bromley

Jane Elizabeth Pelling  22 47 Brady Street father Charles Pelling ironsmith

Witnesses Maggie French and A. North??

Jennifer
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 21 December 18 09:44 GMT (UK)
An Isabella French born 6/7/1850 occ civil servant is in the Islington institution 129 St Johns Street in 1939 says married.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 December 18 09:52 GMT (UK)
Baptism - Margaret Henrietta French born 8/1/1881 Bapt. 24/2/1881 All Saints Poplar parents Henry and Isabella 1 Church Street occ. Mariner.

Jennifer

Thanks Jennifer  :)

The family are not at 1 Church Street in 1881 505/34/24 - Thos Philpot and family.

1881 Isabell Linton is at 26 Susannah Street

1891 Augustus and family are at 16 Susannah Street



Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 21 December 18 10:08 GMT (UK)
At 1 Church Street in 1876 for Augustus Gordon’s bapt. At All Saints born 6/6/1876 Baptist’s. 28/12/1876.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: jennifer c on Friday 21 December 18 10:20 GMT (UK)
They were at 13 Susannah Street by 1884 when Hugh was bapt. Next entry on the register is for an Elizabeth Scott 13 Susannah Street parents Emily and Thomas occ. stevedore.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Augustus henry french
Post by: softly softly on Friday 21 December 18 18:42 GMT (UK)
Many thanks to all who have and are searching.

John