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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: Davedrave on Monday 03 December 18 11:29 GMT (UK)
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(This is a follow-on from a post I made in the Common Room).
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=804585.0
I would be very grateful if anyone could hazard a guess at this extract from a will of 1508. It is just the last few lines and I think I can see Day off Judgement. This part of the will is easier than the first page.
Thanks,
Dave
(Will in Leicester Record Office)
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Sorry, I didn’t mean to post the same image twice. Still learning (and you can’t teach an old dog new tricks!)
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Not to worry Dave I have removed one of the attachments for you.
Regards
Sarah
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Thanks Sarah, hopefully I’ll improve :)
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...the day off Judgement Also I macke
William Lee and Richard Ierland my
overseers off this my Last wyll Wytnes
s(ir) William [Oleame? / Oleavie?] prest Thomas Ierland
William [dewnie?] w(i)t(h) other [m(en)?]
Notes:
It is difficult to be sure of the spelling of two of the witness names.
The word at the end is usually men (sometimes more) but often (as here) it's not much more than scribble.
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Could be Jerland ?
As for the other witness' name, the first letter is problematical, so it might help to see some other capital letters as used in the will, for comparison.
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Could be Jerland ?
I started off with Jerland but then thought of the name Ireland.
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Could be Jerland ?
I started off with Jerland but then thought of the name Ireland.
Yes, seems more likely.
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William Oldame (Oldham) ?
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William Oldame (Oldham) ?
Yes, that looks better than what I had.
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Many thanks for the help. I can see it now that it is pointed out. I wonder whether the Ol... name could have later become Oliver? There are certainly people of this name in this parish later.
Robert Lea was from Naneby, a long-deserted hamlet on the eastern side of the large Market Bosworth parish and this will dates from only some 23 years after the battle, so he may well have been living around here in 1485.
Dave :)
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I wonder whether the Ol... name could have later become Oliver?
Oldame (= Oldham), suggested by clayton bradley, looks solid for the Ol name.
Given that, I feel it's unlikely to have morphed into Oliver.
ADDED:
Remember also that Sir William Oldham is a priest. Priests mostly served in parishes other than their own family parish.
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I wonder whether the Ol... name could have later become Oliver?
Oldame (= Oldham), suggested by clayton bradley, looks solid for the Ol name.
Given that, I feel it's unlikely to have morphed into Oliver.
ADDED:
Remember also that Sir William Oldham is a priest. Priests mostly served in parishes other than their own family parish.
Thanks for pointing that out. It saves me from further flights of fancy.
Dave :)