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I have a record of a Roman Catholic baptism from 1806, written in Latin that states 'Suppletoe ceremonie'. Does anyone have an idea what this might mean?
From records of Our Blessed Lady & St Alphonsus, Blackmore Park, Worcester
August 1806 births & baptism
Benjaminus filius N (?) Lane & Teresa Gallet
Suppletoe ceremonie
patrini Joan. Gallet, Maria Harris
From this, it's likely that Benjamin was illegitimate. The mother's family were Roman Catholic, and it's likely that the patrini (sponsors) were the mother's brother and married sister.
I'm actually trying to find some evidence of Teresa Gallet's parents, and of the mysterious Mr Lane - I have details of Benjamin's marriage and family.
Thanks,
Nick
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Can you post a snippet so we can look at Mr Lane's initial - with a few surrounding records to get a feel for the writing?
I can see no Gallets in 1841 in Worcestershire but by 1851 there are quite a few in Hanley Castle nearby.
But there is this baptism which is probably not Catholic
First name James
Last name Gallat
Baptism date 18 Oct 1772
Hanley Castle, Worcestershire
Country England
Father's name James Gallat
Mother's name Constance
ADDED:
ALso found this marriage
Marriages Jun 1844
BENNETT Jane Upton on Sevn 18 633
Church Sarah Upton on Severn 18 633
Cull George Upton on Severn 18 633
Gallett Teresa Upton on Sev 18 633
Gallett Theresa Upton on Sev 18 633
HUNT George Upton on Severn 18 633
LIPPYATT James Upton on Severn 18 633
But no idea if Upton is near Hanley Castle. ???
An added note on the ancestry entry states that she married James Lippyatt/Lippett & this woman is 29 in the 1851 census, so born ca 1821 & not Benjamin's mother. In 1861 she is 37 born Hanley Castle. Another record shows her father to be George.
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Supplementary Ceremony?
When the supplementary ceremonies are to be performed in the case of a child which has already been baptized, http://anglicanhistory.org/liturgy/old_catholic_ritual/baptism.html
Stan
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Many Catholic Baptisms show mother with her maiden name as you have written it.
Benjamin would therefore be Benjamin Lane. Is that who you are looking for?
Do you have him as Benjamin Gallet?
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Can you post a snippet so we can look at Mr Lane's initial - with a few surrounding records to get a feel for the writing?
I can see no Gallets in 1841 in Worcestershire but by 1851 there are quite a few in Hanley Castle nearby.
But there is this baptism which is probably not Catholic
First name James
Last name Gallat
Baptism date 18 Oct 1772
Hanley Castle, Worcestershire
Country England
Father's name James Gallat
Mother's name Constance
ADDED:
ALso found this marriage
Marriages Jun 1844
BENNETT Jane Upton on Sevn 18 633
Church Sarah Upton on Severn 18 633
Cull George Upton on Severn 18 633
Gallett Teresa Upton on Sev 18 633
Gallett Theresa Upton on Sev 18 633
HUNT George Upton on Severn 18 633
LIPPYATT James Upton on Severn 18 633
But no idea if Upton is near Hanley Castle. ???
An added note on the ancestry entry states that she married James Lippyatt/Lippett & this woman is 29 in the 1851 census, so born ca 1821 & not Benjamin's mother. In 1861 she is 37 born Hanley Castle. Another record shows her father to be George.
Hanley castle is in Upton on Severn registration district
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Hi Josey
James & Constance were RC and may have been Teresa's parents; James b. abt. 1772 was their son. Teresa/Theresa who married James Lyppatt/Lippet in 1844 was, as you say, much younger.
The Index To Death Duty Registers has a death for a Theresa Gallet in 1821,
county: Worcestershire, and she may not have married.
Hanley Castle is in Upton on Severn, Worcestershire.
Stan: this is helpful and may be the answer, especially as the register gives the month but not the day, whereas all or almost other entries give date of both birth and baptism.
Nick
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Many Catholic Baptisms show mother with her maiden name as you have written it.
Good point, perhaps OP can look through same record set for a marriage?
Hanley castle is in Upton on Severn registration district
Doh, I should have looked that up :-[. There obviously were Gallet[t]/Gallatt families around there at the beginning of 19th century.
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I have a record of a Roman Catholic baptism from 1806, written in Latin that states 'Suppletoe ceremonie'. Does anyone have an idea what this might mean?
From records of Our Blessed Lady & St Alphonsus, Blackmore Park, Worcester
August 1806 births & baptism
Benjaminus filius N (?) Lane & Teresa Gallet
Suppletoe ceremonie
patrini Joan. Gallet, Maria Harris
The key words are suppletae ceremoniae, meaning ‘the rites (were) completed’. Is the first part of the baptism ceremony written at the very top of the extract as posted? The godparents seem to be the same.
I suspect it’s not N. Lane at all, but a blank space left before Lane, for a forename that wasn’t available at the time.
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I was just going to ask about the part which is cut off at the top.
Are the details the same or is it just the mother’s name?
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I suspect it’s not N. Lane at all, but a blank space left before Lane, for a forename that wasn’t available at the time.
I was going to suggest that too. It could be an arrowhead for a later entry but certainly looks in a different hand.
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The repeated names at the top, are actually a separate baptism, with the same sponsors. This is a register of baptisms only; Our Blessed Lady & St Alphonsus, Blackmore Park was the private RC chapel of the Horneyold family. The register starts from around 1791, when public RC services became legal, of course.
Benjamin kept the surname Gallet/t, and I have details of his marriage and family. I have found no marriage for Teresa Gallet, or for any male Lane in the area that could be a match, which leads me to think she may have remained unmarried. I went through the register from cover to cover, but no other mention of her name, whereas other Gallet/ts were frequently sponsors at other baptisms.
The handwriting does look a bit uneven, perhaps as if parts were filled-in later, and I agree that I'm not at all convinced that Mr Lane's initial was 'N'
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There was a Mary Gallet who married a Thomas Harris at Hanley Castle on 30 January 1804. Is this Maria Harris?
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She is, and a possible sister of Teresa Gallet
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So... it seems likely that Benjamin was already baptised, perhaps (as Anglican?) in accordance with the father Mr Lane's wishes, and given this supplementary baptism because the Gallet/ts were (and remained in my family) Roman Catholic.
There were Lane's in Hanley Castle, but none appear in the RC register of baptisms.
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Were the Gallets based in Hanley Castle?
Just out of curiosity, what was the name of the baptised child who had the same Godparents?
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They were in Hanley Castle from the 1700s until around 1900. The earliest record I have is of James Gallet, bur. 1823 at Hanley Castle aged 88, so b.abt.1735. Although he was buried at at Hanley Castle in 1823, he may not have been born there of course, and may be descended from Gallets in Tarrington, Herefordshire, through James. bap. 1698. I have a strong line from James b. abt. 1750, who may be son of James b.abt.1735. The line of six James's ended with my great-grandfather.
They're a small family, and records show them mostly in Herefordshire and them Worcestershire from the early 1500s, in general moving away from farming areas to industrial towns in the 1800s, with some emigrating to the USA – a familiar pattern.
The other baptism, partially shown on the snippet I posted is
24 Oct 1806 nata
26 Oct 1806 Bap
Elizabeth
filia Jacobi & Elizabeth (Morris) Gallet
Patrini Joan. Gallet
Matrina Matria Harris
Nick
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So... it seems likely that Benjamin was already baptised, perhaps (as Anglican?) in accordance with the father Mr Lane's wishes, and given this supplementary baptism because the Gallet/ts were (and remained in my family) Roman Catholic.
It may have been as you suggest, or it may have been that a priest or someone baptised Benjamin at home soon after birth and this was simply him being brought to church for the rest of the ceremony. At that time it was the custom for a priest to baptise new-born babies at home rather than wait until they were brought to church.
Does the born and baptised in August relate to Benjamin? Is there a date for the supplementary rites? Benjamin may have been born and baptised somewhere else - his mother may have been living away from home when he was born.
I agree with the others that the letter N in front of Lane might be instead of the father's forename. The priest either didn't know the man's first name or had forgotten it. Perhaps Benjamin's mother wasn't on first name terms with him.
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Do you have access to other pages in the record?
Are brackets used for all the other mothers’ names in the baptisms?
If so, perhaps you are correct that Benjamin is illegitimate - this is sometimes recorded.
With regard to the omission of the name, the records may have been completed at a later date and the priest omitted it or couldn’t remember.
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I think the entry 'Die Aug. natus et' etc. is of Benjamin,, as all the entries as far as I remember are in the same format, well-kept and fairly easy to read with date of birth as well as date of baptism, with the mother's maiden name in brackets, like the example I gave above.
This one is an exception in not giving precise dates and it seems surprising that the priest hasn't entered this - perhaps, as suggested, Benjamin was baptised at home or elsewhere and the register was completed later from memory, it does look as though gaps were left for the date and for Mr Lane's first name.
Teresa could have been a widow, rather than an unmarried mum, but I guess in this case her maiden name would still have been recorded and Benjamin's illegitimacy seems likely.
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Have you searched for an affiliation order or other documents relating to Benjamin's parentage?
When did he marry? Was a father named at his marriage?
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The IGI has Benjamin's marriage to Sarah Matthews, 02.Dec.1835 in Worcester, but not his parents' names. He and Sarah and subsequent family appear on the census in 1841, 1851, and 1861. By 1871 he is a widower, in 1881 living with his son Henry ('Harry'). Sarah was from Harvington By Evesham, Benjamin was recorded as born in Warwickshire in 1841 (perhaps because they were living in Birmingham), all other years as from Hanley Castle, and he died in the 2nd qtr. of 1882, in Aston.
Haven't found any affiliation order on A2A, not sure if there's anywhere else to look?
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it may have been that a priest or someone baptised Benjamin at home soon after birth and this was simply him being brought to church for the rest of the ceremony. At that time it was the custom for a priest to baptise new-born babies at home rather than wait until they were brought to church.
Would this have been the case with a Catholic family, where there was only a private RC chapel? Hanley Castle was said to be notable for its 'large Catholic community' but I wonder if home baptism would be as prevalent as with Anglicans? I can understand this at a time child mortality was not unusual, and I'm also interested to know more about Catholics in the area
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Some sources for Catholic history/family history:
Midland Catholic History Society formed by merger of Staffordshire Catholic History Society and Worcestershire CHS. https://midlandcatholichistory.org.uk Contents of past journals of Midland Catholic History Society are listed at www.catholic-history.org.uk/midland/midland_ind.htm
"Worcestershire Recusant" was the journal of Worcestershire Catholic History Society. There is an index to titles of articles at www.catholic-history.org.uk/midland/worc_ind.htm
Catholic Family History Society. Informative blogs, lists of books, CDs and other publications, meetings, conferences and outings. https://catholicfhs.wordpress.com
English Catholic History Association https://echa.org.uk
The Catholic Record Society publications date back more than a century. Some earlier journals are available online as pdfs, e.g. on the Internet Archive. Many historical articles in them. Some have transcriptions of early registers, mostly 18th-early 19th centuries. Browsing baptism registers printed in these you will notice that many babies born in that era were baptised within a few days of birth, some on the same day.
"Catholic Family Historian's Handbook" by A.J. Mitchinson, published by North West Catholic History Association 1999. Available as a pdf. Some sources are out of date but it's a brief, easy to read introduction. Topics include chronology, making a start, names in Latin registers, Latin format of registers and a translation, glossary, lists of record offices, libraries, societies, journals and books.
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Thank you for these links!
I've already looked at the Catholic FHS, and briefly at the index to the Worcs. Recusant, and I'll look again and in more detail.
I love the way that my family's history takes me off on these tangents; if only I had more time!
Nick