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Title: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: emjsw on Monday 03 December 18 19:56 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

I wondered if anyone could help me please as I can't make out what relationship** Charles Sweetland/Sweatland (spelt Splatt on ancestry!!!) b 1855 Churchstanton, has to the head of the house and also what the head of the house's surname is.

** it could be servant or grandson but I am not sure.

If you are able to decipher it that would be amazing :)

Thanks for reading my post.

Best wishes,
Emma

Name Charles Splatt, Age16,  Estimated Birth Year abt 1855, Relation: Servant, Gender Male, Where born Churchstanton, Devon, England, Civil parish Upottery, Ecclesiastical parish Dunkeswell County/Island Devon, Country England, Registration district Honiton, Sub-registration district Honiton ED, institution, or vessel 27 Household schedule number 11, Piece 2040, Folio 49, Page number 2
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: PaulineJ on Monday 03 December 18 19:58 GMT (UK)
I read Serv.
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: heywood on Monday 03 December 18 20:00 GMT (UK)
It looks like a ‘Do’ for ditto - he’s a servant.

The head looks to be Luke Dimond.
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: avm228 on Monday 03 December 18 20:02 GMT (UK)
It looks like a ‘Do’ for ditto - he’s a servant.

The head looks to be Luke Dimond.

I agree - and Luke Dimond married Martha Pope, Dec qtr 1866 Honiton.
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: emjsw on Monday 03 December 18 20:10 GMT (UK)
I read Serv.

That is great, thank you :)
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: emjsw on Monday 03 December 18 20:11 GMT (UK)
It looks like a ‘Do’ for ditto - he’s a servant.

The head looks to be Luke Dimond.

Fantastic, thanks very much :)
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: emjsw on Monday 03 December 18 20:12 GMT (UK)
It looks like a ‘Do’ for ditto - he’s a servant.

The head looks to be Luke Dimond.

I agree - and Luke Dimond married Martha Pope, Dec qtr 1866 Honiton.

Great, thank you so much and for looking up the maiden name of Martha, much appreciated.
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: emjsw on Monday 03 December 18 20:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone for your time and effort.  This boy is a mystery as he vanishes after 1871, he was the son of Nathaniel Sweetland and Louisa nee Coles. This was the last record of him and now I know a bit more. Many thanks.
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: Winslass on Tuesday 04 December 18 01:54 GMT (UK)

 I wonder whether this is him?

 Charles Sweetland
 Burial Date 7/10/1881
 Chard, Somerset

 (There is no age stated).

Source: Find my Past - England Deaths and Burials 1538-1991

 
 Winslass

 




Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: Bee on Tuesday 04 December 18 02:20 GMT (UK)

 I wonder whether this is him?

 Charles Sweetland
 Burial Date 7/10/1881
 Chard, Somerset

 (There is no age stated).

Source: Find my Past - England Deaths and Burials 1538-1991

 
 Winslass


According to GRO Charles died aged 1

Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 04 December 18 07:58 GMT (UK)

 I wonder whether this is him?

 Charles Sweetland
 Burial Date 7/10/1881
 Chard, Somerset

 (There is no age stated).

Source: Find my Past - England Deaths and Burials 1538-1991

 
 Winslass

I have not seen this information before, thank you so much for sharing it with me. It is possible as there are not that many Charles Sweetlands and they move back and forth between Yarcombe and chard. Thank you :)
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: jonw65 on Tuesday 04 December 18 09:13 GMT (UK)
Could this be his birth?
Dec 1855 Taunton 5c 360
Coles, Charles       
Mother's Maiden Surname: —

Taunton is reg dist for Churchstanton.
Nathaniel Sweetland married Louisa Coles at Upottery, Devon, in 1857.

Baptism at Pitminster, 26 June 1859, of Charley Sweetland, son of Nathaniel + Louisa.
1861 census
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PX-MZ4

According to GRO Charles died aged 1

Matching birth reg?
March 1880 Chard 5c 431
Sweetland, Charles
mother Orchard

1881
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q276-WBRL
Title: Re: 1871 Census return - Please could someone help with Charles Sweetland b 1855?
Post by: emjsw on Tuesday 04 December 18 09:41 GMT (UK)
Could this be his birth?
Dec 1855 Taunton 5c 360
Coles, Charles       
Mother's Maiden Surname: —

Taunton is reg dist for Churchstanton.
Nathaniel Sweetland married Louisa Coles at Upottery, Devon, in 1857.

Baptism at Pitminster, 26 June 1859, of Charley Sweetland, son of Nathaniel + Louisa.
1861 census
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7PX-MZ4

According to GRO Charles died aged 1

Matching birth reg?
March 1880 Chard 5c 431
Sweetland, Charles
mother Orchard

1881
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q276-WBRL

Ahh OK, thank you very much. He was registered as Charles Cole (his mother's surname) but then Louisa married his father Nathaniel 2 years later. He is in the 1861 census with them and is likely the servant above in the 1971 census. I just don't know what happens to him after that. In 1892 there is a Charles Sweetland in the right area who gets into a fight and is stabbed but survives, a brother called James is mentioned as a witness, but this may or may not be my Charles (British Newspaper Archives).
Thanks for helping me :)