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Title: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Tuesday 04 December 18 15:24 GMT (UK)
Hi all, I've been trying to research the McLean line of my family unsuccessfully for years, couldn't get past my granddad's death certificate. Very recently had a breakthrough, but hit another dead end. Appealing for help with:

George McLean (born November 1930, married Beryl Taylor of Lincoln, died 1997. Children Marilyn, Beverly, and Kevin McLean)

George McLean (born 1898 approx., married Annie Wood Rice, 1920, Glasgow - divorced 1958 - children George, John, and James McLean, all born around Glasgow. Affiliated with butchery. Died 1971.)

James McLean (born 1861 approx., married Mary Ann Cameron Scott, dressmaker, on 1882, Glasgow. Children including George [above], James Joseph [married Elizabeth McIlhorne, widow, 1920, Glasgow]. Lived at 222 Church Street, Glasgow. Can't make out his parents' names, father looks to Patrick McLean, mother may be Ann-Jane or something similar with a long but indiscernible maiden name)

Realise this is quite a long shot, but I'm getting a bit desperate.

Any help much appreciated!
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 04 December 18 15:50 GMT (UK)
Hello and welcome to RootsChat.
Are any of the people named alive? RootsChat has a policy of not naming living or recently deceased people.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Tuesday 04 December 18 16:50 GMT (UK)
No, the most recent person on there died over 20 years ago.

Hello and welcome to RootsChat.
Are any of the people named alive? RootsChat has a policy of not naming living or recently deceased people.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Tuesday 04 December 18 17:19 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome from me as well
Can you post a snippet of the parents names that you are having problems with someone may be able to read it
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Tuesday 04 December 18 17:32 GMT (UK)
Here is the section containing the groom and his parents' details.

So far I've made out:
27th March at ___ Chapel, Glasgow
James McLean (21), Hammerman, Bachelor
Signed by someone called Oswald Rothwell/Bothwell
222 Castle Street, Glasgow
What seems to be Patrick McLean, tailor journeyman
Perhaps Ann-Jane McLean? Maiden surname beginning Mc but I can't make the rest out at all.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Tuesday 04 December 18 18:31 GMT (UK)
I think the mothers name is McGam? deceased it is a poor quality you can email Scotlands People for a better resolution and they will email one back to you at no extra cost have you found James in any census as can't see a possible birth in Scotland I am wondering if he was born in Ireland and came over to Scotland at some point
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Tuesday 04 December 18 18:33 GMT (UK)
Haven't found any records of him yet, no. With his dad's name being Patrick, and the spelling being the Irish variant, I did wonder if James had come to Glasgow looking for work.
Ahh (deceased) would explain the impossibly long name, thank you!
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Maiden Stone on Tuesday 04 December 18 18:44 GMT (UK)
Haven't found any records of him yet, no. With his dad's name being Patrick, and the spelling being the Irish variant, I did wonder if James had come to Glasgow looking for work.
Ahh (deceased) would explain the impossibly long name, thank you!

I wouldn't set much store by spelling variants. I have McLean ancestry with various spellings in 19th century. The family members who could read and write were consistent with spelling and they wrote McLean. I believe their origin to be Scottish although there's a chance they might have been from Ireland.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Tuesday 04 December 18 18:50 GMT (UK)
Haven't found any records of him yet, no. With his dad's name being Patrick, and the spelling being the Irish variant, I did wonder if James had come to Glasgow looking for work.
Ahh (deceased) would explain the impossibly long name, thank you!

I wouldn't set much store by spelling variants. I have McLean ancestry with various spellings in 19th century. The family members who could read and write were consistent with spelling and they wrote McLean. I believe their origin to be Scottish although there's a chance they might have been from Ireland.

I thought this, but coupled with 'Patrick' and no Scottish records to be found, I am wondering if they're Irish.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Tuesday 04 December 18 19:17 GMT (UK)
in the 1901 census there is a possible Mclean family in Renfrew
James age 25
Mary age 23
John age 5
Mary age 3
George age 1
although the ages are way out its the only one I can find
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Tuesday 04 December 18 19:20 GMT (UK)
in the 1901 census there is a possible Mclean family in Renfrew
James age 25
Mary age 23
John age 5
Mary age 3
George age 1

Think the ages are a bit out there, as James was born in 1861, married in 1882 at age 21, so he'd be 40-odd in 1901.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Tuesday 04 December 18 19:23 GMT (UK)
yes realised that but it was the closest match for a George with parents james and Mary
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Tuesday 04 December 18 19:29 GMT (UK)
No idea why they're so hard to find, I've been looking for years now and barely ever found anything relevant.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Tuesday 04 December 18 19:38 GMT (UK)
There is another possibility James age 40 also in Renfrew with children
Jessie 14
James 12
George 9
Mary 7
john 3
which is 7 years  to old for George and the wife is Annie possibly Mary going by her second name
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Tuesday 04 December 18 19:43 GMT (UK)
There is another possibility James age 40 also in Renfrew with children
Jessie 14
James 12
George 9
Mary 7
john 3
which is 7 years  to old for George and the wife is Annie possibly Mary going by her second name

On two of her children's marriage certificates, Mary Ann is referred to as Annie (sometimes Scott, sometimes Cameron), so that is a possibility.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 04 December 18 20:17 GMT (UK)
A possible for 1891?:

James McLean 32 hammerman b. Ireland
Annie McLean 28 b. Glasgow
Annie McLean 8
Ellen McLean 7
Jeanie McLean 3
James McLean 2
Thomas McLean 2 Months

Address: 15 Rosemount Street, Glasgow/ Dennistoun

Monica
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 04 December 18 20:25 GMT (UK)
1901, with George now born:

James McLean 38 hammerman b. Ireland
Annie McLean 38
Annie McLean 19
Jeannie McLean 14
Thomas McLean 10
James McLean 8
George McLean 4
Hughie McLean 5
Joseph McLean 1

Address: 15 Clyde Street, Glasgow/ Calton

Monica
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 04 December 18 21:25 GMT (UK)
Could James' mother's maiden name possibly be McCann?

There are a number of Irish births post the start of official registration in 1864 for children to a Patrick Mclean and Ann Jane McCann. Images for births for three of their children, Catherine 1864, Mary 1866 and Patrick 1868 show here https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

The problem is...the father Patrick on these entries is showing as a labourer not a tailor  :-\

Monica

Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Tuesday 04 December 18 21:39 GMT (UK)
Once things are clearer, one death that might be worth thinking of is in Glasgow/High Church area:

Ann Jane McLean other name McCann, aged 43 died in 1870. Mother's maiden name Nugent.

As you know with SP, you don't know until you look which way round the surnames are for married women ie married surname v. maiden name.

Have you got James' death reg? Always good to check names and details from another cert.

Monica
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Wednesday 05 December 18 00:53 GMT (UK)
Once things are clearer, one death that might be worth thinking of is in Glasgow/High Church area:

Ann Jane McLean other name McCann, aged 43 died in 1870. Mother's maiden name Nugent.

As you know with SP, you don't know until you look which way round the surnames are for married women ie married surname v. maiden name.

Have you got James' death reg? Always good to check names and details from another cert.

Monica

All very helpful thank you. I think the second census record might be them, dates seem to match up, though the address is a little out of the way for what I know of them (they tend to be concentrated in the Garngadhill/Govan area). That death record is also a possibility, I can't make out her name properly so McCann is entirely plausible.
No death record for James, no. Spent the last of my credits looking but to no avail.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Wednesday 05 December 18 08:29 GMT (UK)
There are 2 births that match the 1891 census that Monica found which look interesting
Annie Cameron McLean b 1882 and Thomas Scott McLean b 1891 both registered Denniston
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 05 December 18 09:18 GMT (UK)
The marriage certificate, 1882....what names do you see for witnesses.

They might be family. Can you give details for bride. 
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Wednesday 05 December 18 09:47 GMT (UK)
Thanks Wendy, that Annie might be one of James and Marth Anneís children, named after his mother.

Here is the rest of the marriage certificate. Witnesses are Jane Shields and Michael Kelly, so they donít look to be related, hence why I wondered if the family might be back in Ireland.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Wednesday 05 December 18 09:48 GMT (UK)
Brideís details:
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 05 December 18 10:14 GMT (UK)
Census Scotland 1881 @ 222 Castle Street Glasgow
McLEAN Patrick   50yrs  gl labourer           b. Ireland
McLEAN Bridget  48yrs                            b. Ireland
McLEAN Ann         4yrs  grand daughter   b. Glasgow


Census Scotland 1891 @ 222 Castle Street Glasgow
ANNANDALE William     33yrs      b. Midlothian Colinton  rivet maker
ANNANDALE Ann Jane   36yrs     b. Ireland
ANNANDALE Maggie      13yrs     b. Midlothian Colinton
ANNANDALE William      10yrs    b. Paisley
ANNANDALE James        7yrs      b. Glasgow
ANNANDALE Robert       4yrs      b. Glasgow
ANNANDALE John          1yrs      b. Glasgow
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: wivenhoe on Wednesday 05 December 18 10:37 GMT (UK)
What children do you have for James McLEAN and Mary Ann Cameron SCOTT, married 1882?

 * George b about 1898 

 * James Joseph [married Elizabeth McIlhorne, widow, 1920, Glasgow].
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Wednesday 05 December 18 11:03 GMT (UK)
Oh wow, thank you so much. That would suggest that Patrick married again, and they had older children if they have a granddaughter with the surname in 1881. I only have George and James for definite so far, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if there were more. I'd assume an older son because of the granddaughter, Ann (unless she's illegitimate, from a daughter).
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Wednesday 05 December 18 16:02 GMT (UK)
A breakthrough!

7 Mar 1868 Derrinraw
Patrick
Patrick McLEAN, Derrinraw, labourer
Ann Jane McLean formerly McCANN
Patrick McLean X, father, Derrinraw, 19 Mar 1868

(Format for each entry: 
Superintendent Registrar's District, Registrar's District, Registerted in District of, Union, County
Date and place of birth
Name
Names and dwelling place of father, occupation of father
Names and maiden name of mother
Informant, Residence of informant, Date of registration)

Found here: http://www.dustydocs.com.au/linkSpecial/59/147115/baptisms-1864-1880.html
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Wednesday 05 December 18 17:12 GMT (UK)
A breakthrough!

7 Mar 1868 Derrinraw
Patrick
Patrick McLEAN, Derrinraw, labourer
Ann Jane McLean formerly McCANN
Patrick McLean X, father, Derrinraw, 19 Mar 1868



There's a death in Denniston 1932 of a Patrick McLean b +/- 1 year 1868 might be worth looking at
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Wednesday 05 December 18 21:05 GMT (UK)
Fab, thank you Wendy. Where did you find that? Doesn't seem to be showing up on my Ancestry.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Wednesday 05 December 18 21:26 GMT (UK)
Scotlands People website
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Wednesday 05 December 18 21:42 GMT (UK)
Census Scotland 1881 @ 222 Castle Street Glasgow
McLEAN Patrick   50yrs  gl labourer           b. Ireland
McLEAN Bridget  48yrs                            b. Ireland
McLEAN Ann         4yrs  grand daughter   b. Glasgow


If this is Patrick Snr in 1881 that Wivenhoe found there is a possible marriage in 1872 Glasgow Central District Patrick McLean to a Bridget Docherty
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Wendy2305 on Wednesday 05 December 18 22:06 GMT (UK)
Also there is a death of a Patrick Mclean in 1896 Lochwinnoch age 64 which would fit with the Patrick at 222 Castle Street in 1881 The reason I think this is the same one is in 1891 in Lochwinnoch there's
Patrick age 50
Bridget age 40
Rosann age 7
James age 5
Patrick hasn't aged since 1881 and Bridget has got 8 years younger ??? but 5 years later there's the death of the 64 year old if this is James father then it should name both of his wives as well as his parents which would also be on his marriage to Bridget
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Thursday 06 December 18 02:31 GMT (UK)
For the original image Reply #4, I think it may be St. Mungos Chapel?

If this is Patrick Snr in 1881 that Wivenhoe found there is a possible marriage in 1872 Glasgow Central District Patrick McLean to a Bridget Docherty

I'm posting details of a marriage I have which doesn't seem to fit within the Docherty line I'm tracing (yet) but may be of interest later to yourself or others researching the surname?

Marriage;

Owen Ryan (Riveter's Holder on) Bachelor 24 yrs
Jane Docherty (Handkerchief Hemmer) Spinster 20 yrs
Both were living at 216 Mathieson St, Glasgow
Married 31 Dec 1902 St. Francis' Church, Glasgow (R.C. Church)
Marriage registered Hutchesontown, Glasgow
Witnesses: James O'Donnell & Mary McLuskey

Parents of Jane Docherty;
John Docherty (Confection Worker) & Janet Docherty (M.S. Peebles)

As it happens, the son of Owen Ryan & Jane Docherty married one of my Dochertys but whether a coincidence or actually related, I haven't got far enough back yet to find out as it's a very recent line of enquiry  ;D

Annie



Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Forfarian on Thursday 06 December 18 07:36 GMT (UK)
Fab, thank you Wendy. Where did you find that? Doesn't seem to be showing up on my Ancestry.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=714261.0
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 06 December 18 15:24 GMT (UK)
Once things are clearer, one death that might be worth thinking of is in Glasgow/High Church area:

Ann Jane McLean other name McCann, aged 43 died in 1870. Mother's maiden name Nugent.


With Wendy's find of a possible second marriage for Patrick Snr, you might want to have a look at the possible death we had for wife.

Monica
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 06 December 18 15:46 GMT (UK)
The birth entry you mentioned for Patrick Jnr is the one that I referred to earlier where father showed as a labourer rather than tailor (as per James' marriage entry).

Apart from Patrick's entry, I could see also two possible sisters:

Cathrine Mcclean b. 5 May 1864
Birthplace    0757,TARTARAGHAN,ARMAGH,IRELAND
Father's Name    Patrick Mcclean
Mother's Name    Ann Jane Mccann

and

Mary Mcclean b. 20 Feb 1866
Birthplace    0755,TARTARAGHAN,ARMAGH,IRELAND
Father's Name    Patrick Mcclean
Mother's Name    Ann Jane Mccann

You can see the original images from the registers, including Patrick Jnr, on the link from earlier https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

These entries are easy enough to find on the site. Note the spelling of Mary and Catherine's entries with the double 'c'. Patrick Jnr's is the more standard McLean.

Monica
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Thursday 06 December 18 16:39 GMT (UK)
Thank you so, so much. Looked into Catherine, she emigrated to Australia. Found her marriage certificate - lived at 222 Castle Street, just like the others, all info the same.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Thursday 06 December 18 17:16 GMT (UK)
Any help deciphering what this says? On Catherineís marriage certificate. In brackets under the brideís name, and again in the witness box. Invited? Think I see witness as the end?
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 06 December 18 19:04 GMT (UK)
Under Catherine's name, can't easily make out first name but surname I think is McGuiness.

As Wendy has mentioned, why not contact SP and ask for a rescan of image. They are very quick at responding to these types of requests.

See www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/technical-help/reporting-issues

Monica
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 06 December 18 21:57 GMT (UK)
Who is Catherine?....daughter of?.......married who / when / where......with residence as 222 Church Street.

"..On two of her children's marriage certificates," 

You have marriage certificates for two children of James McLean / Mary Ann Cameron Scott, m. 1882 Glasgow?

What children do you have for this couple?

If Catherine married in Scotland, and went to Australia, later events in her life might provide clues to her family.

Can you list all the information on the marriage certificate for Catherine.....everything please, and listed.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Thursday 06 December 18 22:34 GMT (UK)
Catherine is a daughter of Anne Jane McCan and Patrick McLean/McClean. She is a sister of James McLean, my great-great grandfather, whose marriage certificate I have. Both of them list '222 Church Street' in Glasgow as their address on their marriage certificates. She married John Joseph Sweeney in 1881. They emigrated to Australia.

Yes, I have the marriage certificates of George McLean (my great grandfather) and his brother James Joseph McLean, both married in 1920. There are several censuses with couples that might be them (though this is not certain) which include reference to children: Annie, Ellen, Jeanie, John, Mary A, Thomas, Hughie, and James and George. However I don't believe this is the correct family, as it seems to link the bride to an Annie McCulloch.

Catherine's marriage certificate:

2nd December
St Mungo's Chapel, Glasgow

Groom: John Sweeney
Occupation: Serving Machine Packer
Status: Bachelor
Age: 22
Address: 222 Castle Street, Glasgow
Parents: James Sweeney (deceased) and Jane Sweeney, previously Blakely, M.S. Alexander

Bride: Catherine McLean
Occupation: Pottery Worker
Status: Spinster
Age: 19
Address: 222 Castle Street, Glasgow
Parents: Patrick McLean (Coalhill Labourer) and Ann-Jane McLean, M.S. McCann (deceased)

Witnesses: James Lanechan and Margaret Hart
And the information I posted above, which I think must read 'invited, N. McGuiness'

I have also just discovered a record of James McLean's birth (my gg-grandfather), in the records of Loughall and Tartaraghan Parish, County Amargh, 25th September 1859. I have attached the image.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Thursday 06 December 18 22:41 GMT (UK)
Under Catherine's name, can't easily make out first name but surname I think is McGuiness.

As Wendy has mentioned, why not contact SP and ask for a rescan of image. They are very quick at responding to these types of requests.

See www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/technical-help/reporting-issues

Monica

In fairness, I think the problem with this one is the handwriting as opposed to the quality. The image itself is very good quality (wouldn't let me post the full resolution because of the limit on here)
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 06 December 18 23:11 GMT (UK)

Catherine McLEAN, is not literate. The notation under her name is possibly a witness to her signing. I do not know if that also indicates personal knowledge between the two people.

Which state of Australia did Catherine go to, and when........did she have children in Australia?
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Thursday 06 December 18 23:16 GMT (UK)
Possibly yes, though in my experience the priest usually signs for it.

She went to Queensland and has 9 children (Jean, John Joseph Duncan, Nellie, Catherine, Theresa, Alice, Miriam, Marion, and James Hobday [died as an infant]). All were born after her crossing to in 1885.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: wivenhoe on Thursday 06 December 18 23:55 GMT (UK)
Census Scotland 1881   @  Glasgow Chalmers
LENECHAN James    45yrs  head woolen weaver in a factory     b. Ireland
LENECHAN Roseann  55yrs  wife woolen weaver in factory       b. Ireland
LENECHAN Mary       16yrs dau  cotton weaver in factory         b. Girvan Ayreshire
LENECHAN Charles    11yrs son scholar                                  b. Girvan Ayrshire
LENECHAN James Jnr 24yrs  head  shoemaker                        b. Girvan Ayreshire
LENECHAN Ann         23yrs  wife                                            b. Glasgow
LENECHAN Roseann     3yrs day                                             b. Glasgow
LENECHAN John         1/12  son                                             b. Glasgow   

Without seeing an image, that is my construction of the household....three generations.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 07 December 18 00:46 GMT (UK)
"Any help deciphering what this says? On Catherineís marriage certificate. In brackets under the brideís name, and again in the witness box. Invited? Think I see witness as the end?"

Is it possible to post a wider & taller snip to compare letters please?

I don't think the word is 'Invited' as it has a superscript 'd'?

I've seen many 100s of Scottish marriages but I don't think I've ever seen 'Invited' on any?

Annie
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Friday 07 December 18 00:53 GMT (UK)
Letís see how much itíll let me post...
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Friday 07 December 18 00:58 GMT (UK)
here we go
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 07 December 18 01:01 GMT (UK)
Could the word be Init'd (Initialled)?

Annie
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 07 December 18 01:06 GMT (UK)
Where are the witnesses names on the other entry?

I'm not sure it says 'witness' either as it doesn't seem to have a capital 'W'?
Could it be a title before his name?
It does look as Monica thought McGuinness?

Annie
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: OutlandMcLean on Friday 07 December 18 01:08 GMT (UK)
Witnesses James Lanechan and Margaret Hart
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Maiden Stone on Friday 07 December 18 02:04 GMT (UK)
Could the word be Init'd (Initialled)?

Annie

That's what it looks like to me.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: wivenhoe on Friday 07 December 18 03:36 GMT (UK)

We need context here.  You see a notation after the name Catherine McLEAN, bride, and we see that image.

You see the same notation after the name of a witness?. We need to see that image....image of the witnesses name with this same notation.
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: wivenhoe on Friday 07 December 18 07:19 GMT (UK)
Is this the death in Queensland, of your John SWEENEY, married Catherine McLEAN, 1881, Glasgow?

Townesville Daily Bulletin 14 Jan 1933       funeral notice
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/61377315?

QLD BDM death
1933   C994   John   SWEENEY  parents    - Sweeney   / Jean Musher

His mother on marriage certificate is  Jane Sweeney, previously Blakely, M.S. Alexander?
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 07 December 18 09:33 GMT (UK)
Possible death;

MCLEAN JAMES JOSEPH 40 (b c1894)
1934
644/4 719 Dennistoun

This would let you know if wife Elizabeth was still alive for a window for her death.

Annie
Title: Re: McLeans of Glasgow
Post by: Rosinish on Friday 07 December 18 10:43 GMT (UK)
Who were the parents of Elizabeth McIlhone (from the marriage to James Joseph McLean 1920)?

Annie